Originally posted by CaptainStoic
The Red Hulk has shown considerable might though, I mean how strong does a guy need to be, in order to create a seismic event on the level that this Red Hulk did? Soljer once said that it was not stated that it was a 10 on the Richter scale, but what other scale were they talking about?If he is able to generate force of this magnitude, and lost to Thor who would have been jobbing more? I think Loeb told it like it should have been told. I however understand some peoples unease at seeing Thor handled like a light weight, but this would not be the first time that someone has dominated him.... Perrikus beat him worse if you asked me.
Just wanted to add something on M1 - M9
M=1 to 3:
Recorded on local seismographs, but generally not felt
M=3 to 4:
Often felt, no damage
M=5:
Felt widely, slight damage near epicentre
M=6:
Damage to poorly constructed buildings and other structures within 10's km
M=7:
"Major" earthquake, causes serious damage up to ~100 km (recent Taiwan, Turkey, Kobe, Japan, and California earthquakes).
M=8:
"Great" earthquake, great destruction, loss of life over several 100 km (1906 San Francisco, 1949 Queen Charlotte Islands, 1986 Mexico City) .
M=9:
Rare great earthquake, major damage over a large region over 1000 km (Chile 1960, Alaska 1964, and west coast of British Columbia, Washington, Oregon, 1700). Happened on Sunday off the coast of Sumatra, Indonesia.
M=10 ?
Originally posted by CaptainStoicIf he is able to generate force of this magnitude, and lost to Thor who would have been jobbing more? .
Originally posted by quanchi112The post you responded to serves as a response to your post.
Again I have two accounts where the watcher has been hurt by physical contact. Lunatik and Red Hulk. So why couldnt Thanos do the same and accomplish it much faster as well.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotAlso your scan doesn't show he can time travel. It shows he can modulate the transit time of his teleportation. Unless you can show he can modulate it to take a million years, it's useless against a Watcher. And even if you did it would still be useless against a Watcher who can send him as far into the future. Furthermore it's not under his own power its using technology he doesn't have in a no prep fight.
Or the Watcher teleports Wolverine there and uses him to slice Thanos up. Fun game.Let's ignore the Watchers fighting over multiple planes of existence, and surviving universal destruction, simply converting beings into living energy. And can just will themselves back to life. That it apparently took a millenia for a Celestial to gather sufficient energy to kill the lead Watcher. Let's ignore that I don't think you've posted anything at all in this thread by way of proof bar one scan about regular teleportation whereas darthgoober and Symmetric Chaos have... and let's just say Thanos wins because he just does.
I have Wolverine's claws piercing Thanos with the IG, so obviously Thanos is less durable than Colossus. Oh and Squirrel Girl defeated him in canon, with nothing but her squirrel-based powers, so I don't see why the Watcher can't do the same much faster.
Rulk still wins obviously.
Originally posted by XplosiveThe point is he had no limits. He could keep getting more powerful and he was. This was all stated in the comic. you seem to want to try and disagree from a rational real world mindset. Doesnt work that way in comics.
You have to learn to think more with your own mind. No limits, Thanos doesn't stand a chance, zero chances. You do realize that even Protege had limits.You literally take that Thor with power gem had no limits, because it said so.
He had no limits and then gets beaten by Thanos. I mean quanchi, be serious.Thor had limits. He was so limited that he was beaten by Thanos. That is a big limit.
Red Hulk beats him without much trouble.
Again read the comic and get back to me. Thor was going to bust out of the field and was getting stronger with each passing moment. The then took him to asgard. Again Thor was powerful enough at the time he fought Thanos as beating Dr Strange,Surfer, and the entire Infinity Watch. While he was in the field he was subconsciously getting more powerful with each passing moment stated in the comic. 😉
Originally posted by xmarksthespotOk where to begin.
The post you responded to serves as a response to your post.Also your scan doesn't show he can time travel. It shows he can modulate the transit time of his teleportation. Unless you can show he can modulate it to take a million years, it's useless against a Watcher. And even if you did it would still be useless against a Watcher who can send him as far into the future. Furthermore it's not under his own power its using technology he doesn't have in a no prep fight.I have Wolverine's claws piercing Thanos with the IG, so obviously Thanos is less durable than Colossus. Oh and Squirrel Girl defeated him in canon, with nothing but her squirrel-based powers, so I don't see why the Watcher can't do the same much faster.
Rulk still wins obviously.
He timetraveled to earth in the future. Did you miss that part? We dont know how far into the future that he went when he was at earth.
Again you are assuming watcher gets the first attack off and thats exactly what he will do. You are telling me ho wit will go down and thats not how it works imo. Thanos can teleport as well.
Thanos with the power gem imo let Wolvie pierce him to demoralize him. Thanos lowered his powers to give them a chance. He still killed Wolvie easily and wasnt affected in the slightest. Sg I think isnt canon but it happened off panel so we dont know how she did it.
Watcher has been shown to be easily assaulted on panel twice. Thanos has never lost on panel in a fair fight in a physical confrontation.
Thanos win...easily. Can the Rulk teleport?
Originally posted by quanchi112Apparently I did miss it. Feel free to post again where Thanos time-travels under his own power. Or create stars. Rearrange celestial bodies. Makes baby universes. Under his own power.
Ok where to begin.He timetraveled to earth in the future. Did you miss that part? We dont know how far into the future that he went when he was at earth.
Originally posted by quanchi112Supposition. Wolverine can stab Thanos but can't stab Colossus. Thanos is less durable than Colossus, based solely on that incident and ignoring his other feats. Ergo both the Watcher and Rulk stomp.
Thanos with the power gem imo let Wolvie pierce him to demoralize him. Thanos lowered his powers to give them a chance. He still killed Wolvie easily and wasnt affected in the slightest. Sg I think isnt canon but it happened off panel so we dont know how she did it.Watcher has been shown to be easily assaulted on panel twice. Thanos has never lost on panel in a fair fight in a physical confrontation.
Thanos win...easily. Can the Rulk teleport?
Originally posted by xmarksthespotReread the scans.
Apparently I did miss it. Feel free to post again where Thanos time-travels under his own power. Or create stars. Rearrange celestial bodies. Makes baby universes. Under his own power.
Supposition. Wolverine can stab Thanos but can't stab Colossus. Thanos is less durable than Colossus, based solely on that incident and ignoring his other feats. Ergo both the Watcher and Rulk stomp.
Again bfr for da easy win here.
Unless you have a scan showing that Rulk can teleport Thanos wins without even getting his hands dirty. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112Rulk is immune to magic and all psionics. It's common knowledge.
Reread the scans.Again bfr for da easy win here.
Unless you have a scan showing that Rulk can teleport Thanos wins without even getting his hands dirty. 🙂
The only two scans you posted in this thread, one doesn't refer to time at all. The other is modulation of transit time of teleportation. I can teleport from A to B and to the external observer time it may take a second or a year, but to the internal observer it will still be instantaneous. And it's on his chair, which isn't standard equipment.
It's not really time travel unless one thinks Nightcrawler has the ability to time travel, even if only a few seconds into the future. It doesn't help him if he's flung into the future, or into limbo, or into another reality. Oh... and it's on his chair, which isn't standard equipment.
Also those scans didn't show the creation of stars or the manipulation of celestial bodies or baby universes as far as I'm aware.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Why cant he use the chair? It seems people are trying really hard here to give Uatua the win when his durability is very weak to physical attacks imo. Thanos can teleport under his own power anyways. So whose is to say anyways that Thanos stands there and lets the wacther pull off the first attack.
because it isn't part of his standard equipment 🙂
Through time? Scan Please.
What is Thanos usual way of attack at distance? Energy Blasts, has the Watcher showed great resilliance to that kind of attacks yes (Groober picture), will that give the Watcher the time it take to dump Thanos into the past? Yes.
In my opinion the Watcher can easily defeat Thanos by other means then bfr, that is just the most likely action the Watcher will take going by what they does on panel.
Originally posted by xmarksthespotSince when does Thano use magic?
Rulk is immune to magic and all psionics. It's common knowledge.The only two scans you posted in this thread, one doesn't refer to time at all. The other is modulation of transit time of teleportation. I can teleport from A to B and to the external observer time it may take a second or a year, but to the internal observer it will still be instantaneous. And it's on his chair, which isn't standard equipment.
It's not really time travel unless one thinks Nightcrawler has the ability to time travel, even if only a few seconds into the future. It doesn't help him if he's flung into the future, or into limbo, or into another reality. Oh... and it's on his chair, which isn't standard equipment.
Also those scans didn't show the creation of stars or the manipulation of celestial bodies or baby universes as far as I'm aware.
A bfr for the win. Unless Rulk can teleport its the easiest of wins.
For one this isnt the Watcher thread. For two you are assuming Watcher gets the first attack and that it hits Thanos even though he can teleport.
Thanos has used this chair as his standard equipment before. Again he can teleport thru time on this chair an dget back to the Watcher imo.
But again I dont subscribe to the Watcher getting the first attack off and it hitting him. Its funny you are really trying hard here for this but wont even acknowledge Thanos and that he bfrs the red hulk easily.
Originally posted by UtrigitaYes the watcher can take energy blasts but can be easily dominated by physical means which Thanos seems to excel in. This is also assuming Thanos doesnt teleport immediately right on top of him right at the beginning.
because it isn't part of his standard equipment 🙂Through time? Scan Please.
What is Thanos usual way of attack at distance? Energy Blasts, has the Watcher showed great resilliance to that kind of attacks yes (Groober picture), will that give the Watcher the time it take to dump Thanos into the past? Yes.
In my opinion the Watcher can easily defeat Thanos by other means then bfr, that is just the most likely action the Watcher will take going by what they does on panel.
The scans were already posted. This isnt the Wacther thread so lets not derail it any further.
The sentence "Chair is to Thanos, as suit is to Tony Stark" does not compute. And again haven't shown "true" time travel yet in this thread even with the chair. Or interdimensional travel. Or star creation.
I'd give the first move to the being whose sight and senses extend to all realities and has foresight.
It's funny you think "Rulk stomps. Rulk is immune to magic and psionics." is a serious answer. Here's another one. Rulk is immune to teleportation and molecules. My god you're dense.