Red Hulk vs Thanos

Started by razor4life18 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
I gave you an example to get through to you.

Not answering or responding to me while I have already responded to every feat you posted =failure in my book.

Again what abilities did the watcher use against Rulk?

Why do people seem to think battles in comic books equals characters just using everything they have at their disposal? I'm sure thanos has had fights where he didn't use everything you've seen him use in the past(not a question, but a fact) that could end a fight in an instant.

Heck based on abilities alone the watcher is more powerful than Thanos. Seeing as how your turning it into a versus battle. The simple fact that the watcher has control over space and time without need for any tech is more than enough.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again Thanos defeated the Maker who is a being of infinite power.

So Rulk defeated a Watcher with just a physical beatdown. I mean is Rulk universal level in your opinion?

The Maker that

1. Is below the watchers.

2. Had limited herself in her mortal form.

3. point?

Did I say that? No, you asked for feats concerning the watchers vs Thanos I provided them, that The Watcher for some unknown reason choosed not to remove Rulk from his presence with the smallest amount of mental Energy I will choose to look at as PIS unless the Watcher was there to observe ore give Rulk a message, then it would not be in Uatu's character to do anything towards Rulk.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Now I respond to every point you make. You respond back not addressing or answering any of my questions. Rulk beat down the watcher easily. I dont want to make this a Watcher vs Thanos debate but if Rulk coul dbeat down the wacther with his fists why couldnt Thanos?

🙂

Still not talking about what I addressed. You're questions are meaninglessly off topic. If you'd like I can show you the posts. In fact I'll do so right now.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos has better feats than the watcher and has never been beaten down on panel in the same manner the Watcher did by the Rulk.

I then addressed Thanos feats vs Watcher feats in this post:

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not without a CC or the InfinityGauntlet he doesn't.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4502/fantasticfour1321ok9.jpg

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Or how about taking out the MoleculeMan
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3289/fantasticfourv137315rr6.jpg

Seriously, where do you draw these sorts of conclusions from?

You then attempted to dodge by switching back to an argument about RedHulk who is irrelevant to that discussion.

Originally posted by razor4life
Why do people seem to think battles in comic books equals characters just using everything they have at their disposal? I'm sure thanos has had fights where he didn't use everything you've seen him use in the past(not a question, but a fact) that could end a fight in an instant.

Heck based on abilities alone the watcher is more powerful than Thanos. Seeing as how your turning it into a versus battle. The simple fact that the watcher has control over space and time without need for any tech is more than enough.

regardless its a moot point.

People are using Rulk's victory over the watcher as proof that he can defeat Thanos. He showed off none of these abilities whatsoever in his loss to Rulk.

Thanos has transmuted and defeated characters with limitless power on two two occasions. He has never been beaten down on panel as easily as the Rulk has. When has he been beaten down anyways physically?

Rulk wins.....with ease.

Originally posted by Utrigita
The Maker that

1. Is below the watchers.

2. Had limited herself in her mortal form.

3. point?

Did I say that? No, you asked for feats concerning the watchers vs Thanos I provided them, that The Watcher for some unknown reason choosed not to remove Rulk from his presence with the smallest amount of mental Energy I will choose to look at as PIS unless the Watcher was there to observe ore give Rulk a message, then it would not be in Uatu's character to do anything towards Rulk.

Prove that the Maker has less power than a watcher?

Sure it meant he could hurt her body but it didnt mean she had less power. Thanos successfully parried any and all of her attacks.

Rulk defeated the watcher easily. Thanos could have defeated thne watcher very much just as easily in the same manner as Rulk did regardless of who you think is more powerful.

I'm barely beginning to understand why people get pissed off at quanchi.

Originally posted by Badabing
Rulk wins.....with ease.
By punching him? Are you serious?

Rulk wins while swearing, doing the fingers, shooting a gun and f*cking Ms Marvel. 'Cause he's badass. The swearing is @#$%@ed though, the fingers are blackboxed and the ****ing is off-panel. And there's certainly no smoking.

And yes. He punches him out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When has he been beaten down anyways physically?
So because no one has ever beaten Thanos down, we must therefore assume no one can beat Thanos down? Fail logic, and I believe that would classify as a No-Limits fallacy.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Still not talking about what I addressed. You're questions are meaninglessly off topic. If you'd like I can show you the posts. In fact I'll do so right now.

I then addressed Thanos feats vs Watcher feats in this post:

You then attempted to dodge by switching back to an argument about RedHulk who is irrelevant to that discussion.

Thanos does have better feats imo.

Thor with the power gem and the Maker. Most of your Watcher feats were against nobodys. Ok he beat MM. Good for him but he just lost to a guy who punches and brawls and thats it.

Again red Hulk is who this thread is about. You want a Watcher vs Thanos thread make it. Ill see you there.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
So because no one has ever beaten Thanos down, we must therefore assume no one can beat Thanos down? Fail logic, and I believe that would classify as a No-Limits fallacy.
Who has Red Hulk beaten down that Thanos could not repeat?

Could Rulk beat Thor with the power gem? Could Rulk beat the Maker.

Every single feat Rulk has Thanos could indeed replicate if we substituted him there.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who has Red Hulk beaten down that Thanos could not repeat?

Could Rulk beat Thor with the power gem? Could Rulk beat the Maker.

Every single feat Rulk has Thanos could indeed replicate if we substituted him there.

1. Uatu.

2. Yes and yes.

3. Nah.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Uatu.

2. Yes and yes.

3. Nah.

1. What did Uatu do to defend himself that made this feat so impressive? With all his abilities I guess someone can still beat his head in eh?

2.How could Rulk beat him with the power gem? Thor with the power gem had more impressive feats?

3.Yes he could. 🙂

Rulk would just steal Mjolnir and beat him to death while skulling a bottle of Jack Daniels obviously.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. What did Uatu do to defend himself that made this feat so impressive? With all his abilities I guess someone can still beat his head in eh?

2.How could Rulk beat him with the power gem? Thor with the power gem had more impressive feats?

3.Yes he could. 🙂

1. Uatu was too weak for Rulk to defend him. 🙂

2. Rulk rips the PG away from Thor, takes Mjolnir and shoves it down his throat.

3. Nope.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Uatu was too weak for Rulk to defend him. 🙂

2. Rulk rips the PG away from Thor, takes Mjolnir and shoves it down his throat.

3. Nope.

1. So why wouldnt he be too weak for Thanos to beat him in that same exact situation. 🙂

2. No one else could do it. Hell,Strange couldnt even accomplish this with the Watch and the Surfer who has blazing speed.

3.Yes imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Prove that the Maker has less power than a watcher?

Sure it meant he could hurt her body but it didnt mean she had less power. Thanos successfully parried any and all of her attacks.

Rulk defeated the watcher easily. Thanos could have defeated thne watcher very much just as easily in the same manner as Rulk did regardless of who you think is more powerful.

First maker was less powerful then Kosmos.

Here Kubik talking with Kosmos about the greater powers in the universe, Allow me to present the watchers (granted the lowest of greater)

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360889/Fantastic_Four_Annual_23-46.jpg.html
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Please note at link four "we have only grown sufficiantly transcendent to attract the attention of the watchers."

That's some comment when you look at beings that can warp a universe. Please also note number five, where Kubik is talking about how the greater powers tricked Kosmos, Thanos is mentioned correct, but please get no illusions, he is at the next page showed as a agent for Death, and he is placed there because well as you know he does indeed have a place with the evil ones, but the powerlevels between those listed are greatly different.

furthermore marvel appendix

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/kosmoscube.htm

Go down to Thanos#10(fb)

Please. "You have made yourself vulnerable taken mortal form why?"

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/?action=view&current=thanosvsmakerf22.jpg

Show me Rulk defeating him and the Watcher actively fight back because in this battle I doubt that the Watcher will just stand there also was Uatu knocked out? And under what circumstances was the Watcher there?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Now I respond to every point you make. You respond back not addressing or answering any of my questions. Rulk beat down the watcher easily. I dont want to make this a Watcher vs Thanos debate but if Rulk coul dbeat down the wacther with his fists why couldnt Thanos?

🙂


I'm not defending Rulk beating down Uatu because I think it's one of the stupidest ideas ever conceived, but if we take the feat as is then Rulk's punching power would be far beyond anything Thanos has ever shown.

The Watcher(as an observer) survives a battle that destroys whole solar systems...
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http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9533/theinfinityguantlet0509lf8.jpg

Uatu withstands an attack that spans a thousand different planes of Reality...
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/545/f440035rd5.jpg

Those are significant feats of durability, and any who can put down a being with that kind of power with only a few punches would be far superior to most top tiers in the strength department.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. So why wouldnt he be too weak for Thanos to beat him in that same exact situation. 🙂

2. No one else could do it. Hell,Strange couldnt even accomplish this with the Watch and the Surfer who has blazing speed.

3.Yes imo.

1. Cause Rulk>>>>>>>>Thanos in all ways possible.

2. Rulk is a better magician than Strange, faster and a more powerful Cosmic than Silver Surfer, and more powerful than any in the Watch.

3. You are wrong. 131