Joker vs Green Goblin

Started by Scythe6 pages
Originally posted by Da Joker
With prep, the Joker is much more dangerous than just when a fight spawns out of nowhere. I'm sure that if he needed to, he could get the necessary resources. Goblin would win any fight that has to do with physicality, but it wouldn't be so one sided with prep involved.

But....Joker doesn't have prep time. It's spur of the moment, no holds barred fighting.

Forgive me, I havent seen TDK yet, but how is the Joker gonna contend with Gobby on his flying thing? Sled is it called? 😂

Joker was great in TDK, but he just can't defeat Osborne at all. Especially since he wasn't given any prep time at all.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
on his flying thing? Sled is it called? 😂

Sled? Wtf?

Originally posted by Scythe
Joker was great in TDK, but he just can't defeat Osborne at all. Especially since he wasn't given any prep time at all.

Sled? Wtf?

Thats why I included the smily, his flying jet thing.

Glider.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Forgive me, I havent seen TDK yet, but how is the Joker gonna contend with Gobby on his flying thing? Sled is it called? 😂
Without one sided prep he can't contend with GG.

Prep doesn't have to be one sided for him to win if he gets prep. But if it's spur of the moment, he's going to lose more than he's gonna win. Although, for the Joker in TDK that'd be a win for him because he's borderline suicidal.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Glider.
😄

Uhh....go go Power Rangers?

Go go Michael Jackson?

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So many questions!

Originally posted by Da Joker
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So many questions!

Were you asleep during the GG rape?

Probably so...

Originally posted by Da Joker
Although, for the Joker in TDK that'd be a win for him because he's borderline suicidal.

No, it's a loss. Ledger's Joker never showed signs of being suicidal. He gambled and bluffed for Batman to kill him, cuz he knew he wouldn't. That's not being suicidal, that's taking a chance he was already sure of. Watch the scene again where he almost falls to his death, he seems scared, since he covered it up with laughter.

Dude, he wasn't scared. The guy didn't care if he died or not, that was how he'd obtain ultimate victory, through death. He was never scared of dying, never, and you're the first person I've heard say he was. Afterall, if he was would he have been so willing to let himself be beaten up in the interrogation room?

Originally posted by Da Joker
Dude, he wasn't scared. The guy didn't care if he died or not, that was how he'd obtain ultimate victory, through death. He was never scared of dying, never, and you're the first person I've heard say he was. Afterall, if he was would he have been so willing to let himself be beaten up in the interrogation room?

It's all a matter of view then, but to say "Joker wins because Osborne kills him and that's what he wanted" sounds rather odd.

Originally posted by Da Joker
Afterall, if he was would he have been so willing to let himself be beaten up in the interrogation room?

Don't disagree with that you said, but he was taunting the guard so he would get an opportunity to escape, which he did.

Originally posted by Scythe
It's all a matter of view then, but to say "Joker wins because Osborne kills him and that's what he wanted" sounds rather odd.

No, I said in his eyes he'd win...he's a weird person, he wanted either Batman or Harvey to kill him because he felt they were worthy.

And I wasn't referring to the guard who got his ass beat, I was referring to Batman. The Joker could've gotten in some hits if he wanted to during the interrogation scene, but was egging on Batman.

Originally posted by Da Joker
No, I said in his eyes he'd win...he's a weird person, he wanted either Batman or Harvey to kill him because he felt they were worthy.

And I wasn't referring to the guard who got his ass beat, I was referring to Batman. The Joker could've gotten in some hits if he wanted to during the interrogation scene, but was egging on Batman.

Doesn't seem logical though. Joker has never been suicidal. Seems like an overanalyzed factor in play. Just because he knocked on temptation's door, doesn't mean he wanted to die, he was just bluffing and he knew they wouldn't "kill" him.

People seem to look too much into Ledger's Joker imo.

Eh, no, he didn't care about dying, he simply didn't care. Anyone will tell you this. He was not afraid of death. If he were, he'd have been more cowardly like Nicholson's Joker.