United States Presidential Election 2008 - Official Discussion Thread

Originally posted by Robtard
Kidrock has a low opinion of black-people.

He's entitled to it. I mean who isn't entitled to ignorance?

Originally posted by chithappens
What was the point of posting this? I'm just curious

Taking stabs at what Obama's Civilian Security Force is.

None of you die hard supporters can give me an answer to it.

ok, but seriously, black people dressed in black panther-esque suits holding batons in front of a polling station

am I the only person aside from kidrock who thinks that isn't cool? I don't think that is a statement of latent racism...

Originally posted by inimalist
ok, but seriously, black people dressed in black panther-esque suits holding batons in front of a polling station

am I the only person aside from kidrock who thinks that isn't cool? I don't think that is a statement of latent racism...

Why is that not cool?

Look, I don't think it's cool but they are not standing over people's shoulders telling them who to vote for. In a lot of neighborhoods of a black majority, there are random "errors" and stuff isn't counted and so on.

I understand it in context. It can be more with more subtlety but I do understand it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why is that not cool?

Yeah, why is intimidating voters not cool? Worked for Saddam Hussein.

Originally posted by chithappens
Look, I don't think it's cool but they are not standing over people's shoulders telling them who to vote for. In a lot of neighborhoods of a black majority, there are random "errors" and stuff isn't counted and so on.

I understand it in context. It can be more with more subtlety but I do understand it.

So your opinion would be no different if a bunch of KKK members in hoods decided to just stand outside a voting booth with a noose in their hand..right?

Originally posted by KidRock
Yeah, why is intimidating voters not cool? Worked for Saddam Hussein.

So your opinion would be no different if a bunch of KKK members in hoods decided to just stand outside a voting booth with a noose in their hand..right?

Maybe I am not as intimidated by black people who don't know which way I voted as others, but really.

Also, in the US I wouldn't presume to know in which way such a showing would influence people. What exactly is it you think happens because they are standing there?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Good going on the hypocrisy.

Well, he is.

I wonder how sithsaber is going to react.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why is that not cool?

armed people wearing uniforms with obvious militant-racial origins (the uniforms) at a voting center?

well, my problem would be that they are intimidating. Not because they are black, obviously, but because they are in black radical uniforms and brandishing weapons.

Originally posted by chithappens
Look, I don't think it's cool but they are not standing over people's shoulders telling them who to vote for. In a lot of neighborhoods of a black majority, there are random "errors" and stuff isn't counted and so on.

I understand it in context. It can be more with more subtlety but I do understand it.

more subtle, oh I couldn't see how

how are armed goons going to prevent vote machine problems?

Originally posted by KidRock
So your opinion would be no different if a bunch of KKK members in hoods decided to just stand outside a voting booth with a noose in their hand..right?

I wouldn't go as far as hoods and nooses, but brown khakis and red arm bands, sure.

Originally posted by inimalist

I wouldn't go as far as hoods and nooses, but brown khakis and red arm bands, sure.

why not? You're ok with some people dressing up as militant and carrying weapons but not others?

Originally posted by KidRock
why not? You're ok with some people dressing up as militant and carrying weapons but not others?

I don't think their outfits are as dramatic a statement as KKK outfits would be

and let me clarify, my only problem with them is that they might potentially interfere with someone's right to freely vote without fear. I don't think the people are dangerous, just that someone might perceive that they are, and that person's rights are being infringed upon.

lets compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges now, here. Some of us may be backwood slow but not entirely stupid.

lets stop comparing a full fledged clansman with hood in tow while carrying a noose to a person whos' just dressed in black and who's not even a black panther.

lets stop being stupid..

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
lets compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges now, here. Some of us may be backwood slow but not entirely stupid.

lets stop comparing a full fledged clansman with hood in tow while carrying a noose to a person whos' just dressed in black and who's not even a black panther.

lets stop being stupid..

Exactly, the KKK has a specific and long history of intolerance and violence against peoples they considering 'racially impure.'

Not that I fully agree with those black guys wearing militant style gear reminiscent of certain radical groups in front of a voting station with batons, as there certainly are valid security companies to be hired, if there's fear of violence. But the comparision (Kidrock, yes you) is a reach into the realms of idiocy.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think both should be allowed 😐

for some reason you're the only one on here that does it to me but it's hard to tell when you're joking or not, like now, so i'll just ignore that post by not replying directly to it with my sentiments on that.

well like, they aren't hurting anyone and it isn't illegal to carry a stick

Originally posted by inimalist
well like, they aren't hurting anyone and it isn't illegal to carry a stick

Neither is a man wearing a hood and holding a noose..yet you're against that.

Originally posted by inimalist
I don't think their outfits are as dramatic a statement as KKK outfits would be

and let me clarify, my only problem with them is that they might potentially interfere with someone's right to freely vote without fear. I don't think the people are dangerous, just that someone might perceive that they are, and that person's rights are being infringed upon.

Exactly, some people might be afraid of a militant black guy holding a stick and it could turn them away.

Originally posted by KidRock
Neither is a man wearing a hood and holding a noose..yet you're against that.

in front of a federal polling station? yes

in general, not in the least

Originally posted by KidRock
Exactly, some people might be afraid of a militant black guy holding a stick and it could turn them away.

which is the only reason I think it might be a problem. I'd have a problem if they were armed security agents in uniforms, or even police. There is no need for that type of security at the front door of a polling station. America =/= Iraq

there are 2 freedoms that are potentially coming into conflict here, and I might sway to the right to have a fair vote over *this* type of freedom of expression, and only in the absolute direct area around the polling station. If these guys were even 10 meters away, I'd have no concerns

It's intimidating and fear mongering, or is that a good thing now?

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