Begins had a pretty bad Wayne Death Scene...
If you take Napier out of the B89 death scene, it's a great scene that's true to the comics...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5aYC9Gk17Q
I know, Scarletspeed, he was a very good man. I'm a terrible person, but he just got on my nerves so much and the mom was just a cypher. The feminist in me has a bit of a beef with Nolan's universe because the women don't really play a part in any of the plot. It's like they don't factor into anything. Rachel came close and TDK expanded her character a little more than BB...and she was a great upgrade from Katie Holmes...but that's as close as they get.
I like the comicbook story where they were coming out of a movie theater rather than the opera. Just a family outing. It makes it even more tragic somehow, whereas with the opera, since they left because Bruce was afraid, it already seemed to be an omen of things to come. Who expects anything bad to happen coming out of a movie theater?
I can understand them being good people, that doesn't bug me. If they were crooked it'd be no point in Bruce wanting revenge. But still, even if he only thought it was fair in any incarnation for them to not have bodyguards....why take an alley as a shortcut or period knowing how the city is? Why not have Alfred pick you up or why not just wait and tell Bruce to wait in the lobby somewhere until that particular part was over? Also, Batman Begins had the parent's death scene closer to the comics because it was a random crook, and not a major villain like the Joker.
Originally posted by Da Joker
I can understand them being good people, that doesn't bug me. If they were crooked it'd be no point in Bruce wanting revenge. But still, even if he only thought it was fair in any incarnation for them to not have bodyguards....why take an alley as a shortcut or period knowing how the city is? Why not have Alfred pick you up or why not just wait and tell Bruce to wait in the lobby somewhere until that particular part was over? Also, Batman Begins had the parent's death scene closer to the comics because it was a random crook, and not a major villain like the Joker.
Which is why I said take out Napier, and it's a very good, true to comics scene... See the vid I posted, it's great...
Re: Bruce's Parent's Death
Originally posted by Da Joker
I have thought about this many times, and still don't understand why billionaires would be walking the streets at night, knowing it's terribly dangerous. I know it's important to the mythos but c'mon, they shouldn't be that stupid, right?
They were leaving the opera house. What is so stupid about that?
Considering that Begins was mostly Bruce Wayne's adventure... it could be that his dad's last words were not really spoken, but a 'terrible thought' that Bruce had to live with.
He was young. He was impressionable. Maybe the whole flashbacks aren't as accurate as we are viewing them at Bruce's viewpoint.
I never thought of Alfred just picking them up. While I didn't grow up in as big or bad a city as Gotham, all the theaters and stuff were downtown with a high crime rate. The whole thing doesn't make sense. Why take a kid that young to the opera anyway? Bruce seems to be a well-behaved, well-bred kid, but most children simply don't care for opera. Why not leave him at home with Alfred? Let him be a kid. Then if he gets scared, why not sit with him in the lobby until the "bat" part is over? That can't be the whole opera. And then, here's a thought: go out the front entrance rather than the side that opens up to an alley.
Originally posted by willofthewisp
I never thought of Alfred just picking them up. While I didn't grow up in as big or bad a city as Gotham, all the theaters and stuff were downtown with a high crime rate. The whole thing doesn't make sense. Why take a kid that young to the opera anyway? Bruce seems to be a well-behaved, well-bred kid, but most children simply don't care for opera. Why not leave him at home with Alfred? Let him be a kid. Then if he gets scared, why not sit with him in the lobby until the "bat" part is over? That can't be the whole opera. And then, here's a thought: go out the front entrance rather than the side that opens up to an alley.
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Good points...