Originally posted by roughrider
Yes, Juggernaut can be stopped or hurt. It just takes someone with magic power of a High Skyfather & up to do it (or a telepath when Juggs has his helmet off.). Which Hulk has never been, except when he was War Hulk. All those previous fights when Hulk would bury Juggernaut under boulders and jump away - that's not victory. Juggernaut just gets out and keeps coming.And those scans of Red Hulk & Thor - 🤨
Now, we only see what happens when they are in space and nothing before that. But even if we accept a technicality of zero gravity enabling Red Hulk to hold mjolnir, it should return to Thor whenever he calls it (instead of standing there & taking it.) Loeb fails, again.
There better be a small Celestial inside Red Hulk, to explain all the ridiculous showings he's had.
see, this is what I mean by "oblivious to evidence".
War Hulk didn't have any "magical" powers, he was simply siphoning off the energies within him. the celestial tech merely regulated his innate energies. any Hulk that retains the dynamic strength thing, will eventually beat Juggernaut to a pulp.
Onslaught too, beat Juggernaut to a pulp physically.
where's the need for "magic"? or for telepathy?
as for the Thor thing, same as with Juggernaut. to lift Mjolnir you have to be more powerful than Odin (whose enchantment it is) or you might use magic.
but to move it from Thor's hand, that is a feat that has been done by Magneto and Surfer before. and that seems to be what Red did too. just that Red then went and beat Thor up with it 😂