Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
nope, truely it would be noticed if all that money was being drained for those materialsand im not sure theres a martial artist i nthe world who ca ntake on 20 thugs no matter how good he is
A Samurai could probably take on 20 WARRIORS on his own with a sword, and 20 Thugs on his own using his fists.
If not a Samurai, a Shaolin Monk would.
Originally posted by Starscream M
Assuming one has the time and resources, could someone actually become Batman in our world and wage war against crime?
I would have to assume that someone would have to have the actual riches that Bruce Wayne does. And perhaps a tragic happening in that persons life that would have to make the person study the martial arts and criminology. As for actually donning a rubber suit , not really known
Originally posted by The Heap
A Samurai could probably take on 20 WARRIORS on his own with a sword, and 20 Thugs on his own using his fists.If not a Samurai, a Shaolin Monk would.
A samurai can certainly do those things, but then again so can any accomplished and trained martial artist.
Originally posted by The Heap
A Samurai could probably take on 20 WARRIORS on his own with a sword, and 20 Thugs on his own using his fists.If not a Samurai, a Shaolin Monk would.
Actually Samurai could not.
Samurai, like Ninja, have been over-glorified in the media and literature. A Samurai was merely a member of the upper strata of Japanese feudal society, and as such had certain rights and priviledges (ranging from being the only ones allowed to carry the Katana and Wakizashi, as well as truly own land ....which was actually owned by their lord, or Daimyo). They did study a lot of buJitsu, and it is true that an insult could easily be settled with a duel, but they are far from the superhumans people make them to be.
Also, you say that a Samurai could take on 20 warriors .....but the warriors for most of feudal history WERE Samurai.
The Ninja have also undergone the same fluffing ....Ninjas of the past were more spy than assassin, yet in modern literature and movies you see them as black garbed (they almost never wore black ....it stands out at knight ....speckled browns were more like it) master-assassins! In reality, a ninja was the guy tending the garden in your city, or the homeless beggar on the street, rather than super-humans jumping from one tree to another as seen in Manga cartoons. Ninjas rarely did any assassinations .....they were mostly used for espionage.
However, the myth of the Ninja has really grown (even more than that of the Samurai) ....I remember once seeing a 'real' Ninja class in the US, and their 'authentic' Ninja swords were not Ninja ken but rather normal Katana. And the 'real' Ninja lessons being given were just an amalgamation of Weekend-warrior Karate lessons being worn by people wearing 'authentic ninja black.'
By the way, there are some authentic Ninjitsu schools (such as the ones by Hatsumi, an actual ninja grandmaster with the LINEAGE to prove it), but you are not finding those in your local malls (in the same way that the 'authentic Samurai sword' you bought from the mall is so useless that it poses a real danger to you and your loved ones ....I wish you knew how many people injure themselves when their 'real' swords, which do not even have full tangs and are made of stainless steel, come off or break and fly into a thigh or arm. We call such 'swords' either 'Wall hangers' or SLO - sword like objects. Do not buy anything made of stainless steel or without a full tang).
Anyways, no Samurai could take down 20 'warriors' in real life ...in Manga yes (especially with delayed blood-spray effects), but in real life you are dead!
No person can take down 20 thugs with their bare fists ....that only happens in movies. Any martial artist or teacher who tells you they can teach you to take down 20 men is LYING to you. I know people who have taken down THREE men, but they will tell you that they may not be able to replicate those results. In real life so many things come together, and taking on multiple opponents (even when it is taught) is more of a just-by-the-way rather than a science. If you defeat 3 men in combat you are very lucky ....if you defeat 20 men in combat you are lying.
Unless there is some back-story to it ....e.g. you are a multiple-Dan blackbelt, and your attackers are 4th grade kids who jumped you during Halloween yelling trick-or-treat.
BTW: Most martial art dojo techniques FAIL in the streets. If all your experience was from some Taekwondo or Karate school, do not try getting into a street fight unless you have no recourse. Real fighting and Dojo/Dojang fighting are very different ....and if that is all you know you WILL get knocked the F out!
I remember once in the US i saw a kid (he must have been in grade school) with a black belt. An actual black belt! I remembered how long it took for me to get mine (outside the US), and how i used to bleed (try hitting a makawara board for several hours, and getting caned ....with a bamboo stick ....if you try to soothe your bleeding hands), yet here is a lilly-white angel-faced stick-thin boy wearing his Gi and with a black belt around his waist.
Where i come from we would have snatched that belt from his waist (a disgrace to the belt) and thrashed him, but that will get you arrested State side.
Anyways, Samurai were great .....but not even a quarter as great as people make them. Samurai were also honorable, but they were not the great masters of decorum (called Giri - duty honor and obligation) that they are made out to be. They used to beat people up, they used to rape a lot (one of the Samurai 'arts' is how to tie up women), and they used to get drunk and act the fool. And Samurai were not masters of the blade .....many Samurai specialized in non-sword weapons, such as the bow and arrow, or the naginata (halberd), yari (spear), and many of them switched to gunpowder once blunderbuses and flintlocks came to Japan.
Goodness, many Samurai spent their time performing Chanokyu tea-ceremonies (another of the Samurai arts) ...yet movies will have them always slashing each other and winning great wars. The big activity of Samurai was political positioning and trying to gain favor in the eyes of their Daimyo ....it was not hacking off heads.
Don't get me started on Ninjas ....if 75% of what is said of Samurai is a lie, 95% of what is said of Ninjas is a super-lie.
Please do not take this as me saying Samurai and Ninja were hacks ....what is a hack is the modern versions of what they did.
There were also great Samurai of note (for instance Miyamoto Musashi, probably the best known Samurai of all, who was VERY good with the sword. However, it has also been said that the reason he killed so many is because he was very good with the sword, PLUS OTHER SAMURAI WERE NOT GOOD WITH THEIR SWORDS). There were also groups of brave Samurai (like the group of Ronin who died for their master). However, most of the stories of Samurai are just hogwash.
You stated that a Samurai can beat up thugs ....more probably a modern thug can beat up a Samurai (for one the modern thug is not malnourished, and second of all probably engages in more real combat in one year than the average Samurai engaged in his entire life).
As for Shaolin Monks ....they used to be very weak until Bodidharma (a monk from India) came and taught them meditative techniques that grew into gung fu. Over the course of centuries the techniques grew in number and scope, and got 'updated' when fleeing military generals (say one lost a war and decided to flee to a monastery) taught them their fighting techniques. They thus became quite good at martial arts.
Although, once again, they are not what is made out to be in movies. They are not super human (the so claimed 'chi gung' is actually a meditative practice, but in movies they make it seem like some iron-body technique that makes you invincible ....the bending of spears with throats can be done by ANYONE with proper body positioning, and one monk got mocked when he performed a 'kick-me-in-the-balls' trick, where they have a spectator kick them in the balls, and the CUP he was wearing to protect his organ came loose).
A Shaolin monk (real monks ....not the various ones who have started following 'karate masters' and 'taekwondo killers' to local malls) can fight. However, he is also NOT beating up 20 men.
No expert will want to face more than one person in a fight. Some years back, one of the Gracie brothers was beaten up in a street fight in Brazil ....what happened is he went to the ground, and while he is grappling with the man a SECOND MAN came and started stomping on him!
Only fools and movie actors try to get in a fight with more than one person (if they can help it).
Anyways, with all that said ....yes, someone can be like Batman. However, you need around 15-18 years of REAL martial training (note: I did not say martial 'arts'😉, you need to be a genius in EVERYTHING, you also need to have several BILLION DOLLARS to your name.
Do all of that and you can become like Batman.
The only problem is this ....your LIFE EXPECTANCY will be very very very very SHORT.
Unlike comics, all it takes is one lucky shot, or one wet windowsill 200 feet above the ground, or one small error ....and you are DEAD.
Conclusion: Not only are the Samurai NOT super-warriors, not only are Ninjas NOT Manga assassins, and not only is it impossible to beat up 20 people unless they are toddlers .....it is also NOT possible to become Batman unless you are a master-fighter Dollar-billionaire who is a genius-of-all-things .....and EVEN THEN you will only do it for a couple of days, maybe weeks if you are lucky, before you DIE.
Not possible.
LMFAO!
When did I say ANYTHING about Ninja? [which, btw, is always pronounced "Ninja" not "Ninja's".
First of all, I know you have never tried learning Karate in your life, because you are infact taught on how to take three individuals at once. You have to move quickly in a zig-zag-like pattern, smash one individual to your right with your right forearm, repeat on the opponent to the left with your left forearm, and then smash your knee into the face of the opponent infront of you. It doesn't take luck, it takes skill and precise planning.
Secondly, no, not everybody can lean on a Spear and bend it. You have to condition your body through years of practice. If I went along and tried to bend a Spear with my torso it would go straight through me.
Samurai aren't superhuman, but the majority were Masters when it came to weapondry. Their real job was that of a Servant, and on the battlefield, a Warrior.
A lone Samurai, also, within around 17 minutes, likely could beat up and/or kill 20 street thugs. Hell, I know some Karate teachers who could do similar things. Not taking out 20 people, but taking out atleast 6.
Krav Maga is another Art in which your taught how to take 10 people on from different directions, during a short period of time.
I've realised you don't know much about MA. Your just picking things up off of the internet.