Rot Bane, Exar Kun (amulets and all), Sith qel droma vs DE siddious, Caedus and Nion

LS, I completely disagree with your exaggerations. While Jacen might have more raw force potential, there is nothing so significant that separates him from Bane or that would cause him to somehow pwn Bane. They are both masters of the force so even if Caedus DOES win (IF), it won't be by a long shot.

The same goes with you saying ROTS Palpatine is MUCH more powerful than Bane. Your interpretations are ridiculous and show your own fanboyism which makes you no better than Exodus. Taking a quote and interpreting it to your benefit does not work here. We know ROTS Sidious is stated as the most powerful of his order, but that's about it. Nothing suggests a great power discrepancy between the two force users.

I said DE Palpatine is far above Bane. ROTS Palpatine is 'already' above Bane and nowhere did I say Caedus will have an easy win. He does, however, have a great command of force lightning and shatterpoint, which isn't a good combo for Bane

Originally posted by Lightsnake
I said DE Palpatine is far above Bane. ROTS Palpatine is 'already' above Bane and nowhere did I say Caedus will have an easy win. He does, however, have a great command of force lightning and shatterpoint, which isn't a good combo for Bane

Yes, he has a great command of force lightning, but while Bane's is greater, as you said, it won't be pretty for Bane. However, Bane's force wave attacks are ridiculous. Then again, if Kas'im can block it, I assume so can Caedus.

And you FEEL Bane can bbreak through with...what? The powers of Bane fanboyism? On what evidence?

How about Force attacks strong enough to liquidise bone, shatter buildings, disintergrate metal and turn humans into ash?

Sith fight fair, now? Jacen stood against Luke in a fight for a time and survived, like it or not.

I'm saying that Jacen and Luke didn't fight toe to toe, Jacen ducked and weaved and used advantages that he wouldn't have here.

He'd block a Sith Lord far more powerful than he is,

Lie. Even if he is more powerful than Bane (Its debatable), the power difference (as Sexy nicely pointed out) isn't so extreme that Sidious is going shred through his defences like paper.

using a technique he knows nothing about not even directed at him while he's distracted!

Another lie. My previous point was that Bane used a much more powerful version of the same attack, so he obviously knows about.

You Bane fanbrats make me laugh.

And you Sidious fanboys make me feel like Stephen Hawking.

And wow, he can disintegrate technobeasts! How does this relate to ANYTHING? He needs to BLOCK here.

If he's powerful enough to use the attack (better than sidious) then he's powerful enough to block it.

So adept he's lying back on the ground screeching in agony after a few orbalisks die.

He's hit by his own attack of force lightning, which if you must know does this:
Prolonged exposure to intense electrical fields (such as a sustained current of Force lightning) caused most humanoids to experience sudden and massive calcification of their skeletal system; the abrupt drop in blood minerals provoked muscular microseizures all over the victim's body. Telltale symptoms included generalized muscle aches and double vision. A blood test or bioscan could be used to confirm the diagnosis. Unless the victim received complete bed rest and appropriate medical treatment, the disorder would become chronic, lingering for years (barring timely bacta immersion). A textbook case is found in Luke Skywalker, who was diagnosed with the disorder by 2-1B and was confined to a hoverchair for his trip to Bakura during the Ssi-Ruuk invasion, mere days after his near-fatal encounter with Palpatine.

And considering Boba has a grand total of 'zero' Jedi to kill? She's wrong and it's one of Traviss's patented continuity errors.

Sorry, but its canon and Traviss>you.
And Boba killed his fair share. He have had to to even have been considered a huge jedi-killer.

Ah, so six months into his training Bane took on four elite fighters, including one of the finest duelists ever to live and defeated them all handily? While injured?

Neither did Caedus.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
How about Force attacks strong enough to liquidise bone, shatter buildings, disintergrate metal and turn humans into ash?

Neither did Caedus.

Caedus specifically will know instantly their weakness due to the Shatterpoint.

Caedus won't instantly be able to see the exact weakness of the orbalisks. They only appear at brief instances and even if he does see Bane's weakness it doesn't mean that he'll be strong enough to be able to expliot it.

Anyway this whole this is pointless becuase Bane will instantly be able to tell that he's the only one capable of holding off Sidious and he's not retarded enough to let Sidious kill all his allies. Although, Kun's amulet might beat Sidious.

4. Caedus compares to Bane in speed.

This isn't true. Bane has been shown to be much faster than Caedus.

Which is why he would have died if Zannah and Caleb didn't save him.

Obviously he can't do while he's unconcious.

Yeah, and since PAlpatine's much more powerful, it'll tear through just as easily

HA!

You made a funny.

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Kun who pointedly is only focusing on using his amulet and not defense?

Idiot.As stated in POD, all jedi always have a shied up. Precognition shows that he wouldn't be taken by surprise and jedi reflexes mean that he'll be able to block it. And as there isn't a huge power difference between them, he will block it.

Perhaps he could cr

Perhaps he could, if that was an actual word or an actual thing.

Sorry, the challenge is to you: Show me proof of these amulets working against force sheild or energy manipulation. Proof! Instances! Facts!

You can't prove a negative, as in that it wouldn't work. Obviously an attack that powerful, that it can smash walls and disintergrate people would register to a jedi.
What Else is it going to do? Wash over with no effect?
Its a blast of pure darkside energy, of course its going to be able to do damage or hit a force shield, with the kind of strength that it takes to do the above effects.

Yeah, ANGLING the blade is going to stop the entire storm of lightning bigger than Bane's whole body. We know how big Bane's saber is-it can only block a small percentage of the lightning.

Well I always assumed that a jedi could guide the lightning to the blade somehow. I mean, why else wouldn't the lightning just shoot past the thin blade onto the jedi's body.
And anyway, I can see an angle that could protect the entire body.
Not to mention that Bane can probably block it in the force.

Against someone of considerable power when Kas'im could defend himself from those attacks?

Hey, Kas'im was a beast. Now I know that his only force showing was slamming open a huge stone door whilst berely concentrating, but he was a very high level Sith Lord and probably threw his all into that attack. Not to mention that this was still 10 years before Banes peak.

So he can't duck and weave against Bane, whose size makes him more unwieldy...how?

Jacen hid behind things and in the dark. And Bane's not unwieldly, he can do a freakin' standing backflip.

By ROTS it isn't. But DE? Whole nother animal.

Anything that Sidious can do, Bane can match in power.

Bane can destroy lightsabers now? Where was this?

Techno-beasts. Listen.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Hey, Kas'im was a beast. Now I know that his only force showing was slamming open a huge stone door whilst berely concentrating, but he was a very high level Sith Lord and probably threw his all into that attack. Not to mention that this was still 10 years before Banes peak.

Techno-beasts. Listen.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Anything that Sidious can do, Bane can match in power.

Actually, he can't. Emperor Palpatine was capable of summoning Force Storms (and he is the only Force user in the whole of canon who has demonstrated working knowledge and mastery of this technique) -- a Force power that was considered by the Dark Empire sourcebook to be "the most powerful Force power that exists." The demonstrated magnitude of his mastery with this particular technique enabled him to disintegrate entire flotillas of state-of-the-art Star Destroyers capable of resisting gigatons of damage, "tear off the surfaces of worlds", and transport Luke Skywalker from Coruscant and deposite him within a Lictor-class dungeon ship. The last time that Bane demonstrated planet-wide power is when he had the collective mastery and experience of the Brotherhood at his beck and call.

Lie. Even if he is more powerful than Bane (Its debatable), the power difference (as Sexy nicely pointed out) isn't so extreme that Sidious is going shred through his defences like paper

Actually, it's not up for debate. The Dark Side Sourcebook, Complete Visual Dictionary, and Essential Guide to the Force all confirm that Palpatine > Bane.

Look, why can't you realize that Palpatine>>>Bane?

Numerous times it's been stated Sidious is the most powerful Sith ever. Plus he's done tons of amazing feats Bane hasn't (insta-kill Force lightning, Force storms, resurrecting himself in clone bodies, etc.). For once, admit defeat honorably, and realize that Bane was not nearly as great as you think he is.