Liu Kang vs. Gouki

Started by Dark-Jaxx21 pages

Originally posted by SmashBro
Talking to yourself is a sign of insanity, you know?
Funny, so is having delusions and making the same wrong choices or mistakes and never learning from them.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Funny, so is having delusions and making the same wrong choices or mistakes and never learning from them.

Well that's not my problem.

Originally posted by SmashBro
Okay I'm gonna tell you like I told Jaxx; what does Shang Tsung having more styles suppose to mean?
Pay attention. This really isn't hard to follow. It means that your point about "Kang shouldn't have been doubleteamed that easy because he knows many styles" is proven to be pointless. Get it?
Originally posted by SmashBro
You know, I could do that same for you and say you're not giving Liu Kang much credit because you hate him but I'm not gonna do that. All you're saying is "it's logical" without explaning why. And I have made a valid statement. You're the one who didn't.
How is your statement valid? You're talking about Kang's number of styles when he's going up against a guy who knows more, is cheating AND has help. Are you saying it's not logical for Kang to lose like that after being blindsided? My hatred for Lame has no bearing on this. Your love for him has you thinking it's PIS for him to lose like that against 2 very powerful fighters & sourcerers that are cheating. What is up w/you? Come on now. You can be better than this. Either explain how Lame knowing the styles he knows should have stopped that from happening or admit that it's not PIS. It's that simple

Originally posted by I-Drop
Pay attention. This really isn't hard to follow. It means that your point about "Kang shouldn't have been doubleteamed that easy because he knows many styles" is proven to be pointless. Get it?

Nope. I still haven't gotten an explanation why.

Originally posted by I-Drop
How is your statement valid? You're talking about Kang's number of styles when he's going up against a guy who knows more, is cheating AND has help. Are you saying it's not logical for Kang to lose like that after being blindsided? My hatred for Lame has no bearing on this. Your love for him has you thinking it's PIS for him to lose like that against 2 very powerful fighters & sourcerers that are cheating. What is up w/you? Come on now. You can be better than this. Either explain how Lame knowing the styles he knows should have stopped that from happening or admit that it's not PIS. It's that simple

This is just ridiculous. I'm the one asking you guys to explain yourselves numerous times and now I'M being asked to do the same thing. I don't get this. And I got no "love" for no character so knock it off!

But to answer your question, yes. Since someone is trained so many styles and good enough to beat powerful beings in the past, I expect someone like that to at least aware of his surroundings and presence of his opponents. Afterall, he did noticed Shang Tsung and then afterwards Quan Chi interferred during a PAUSE. And Shang having more styles got nothing to do with it since, as I said already, it wasn't strictly hand-to-hand. They started fighting like that but it was only like that for alittle while until Liu Kang was BLASTED in the back and then Shang Tsung went straight for the neck snap so that's why I said that was pointless.

It's not PIS then. It's just Liu Lame not living up to your high expectations of him. Knowing a few styles doesn't mean you can't be caught off guard. QC came out of nowhere while Lame was focused on Shang. Notice how you didn't see him until he was ready to strike. When a mystic of Quan's level don't want you to see him coming, you don't. Shang dropped the KLao guise 'cuz he wanted Kang to see him. He could have just hatdecapitated him. Kang fell to a well planned attack. No shame or PIS to be found. MK needed a break from him anyway, the only PIS was his return

Originally posted by I-Drop
No shame
There is always shame if Liu Lame is involved.

True dat

Originally posted by I-Drop
It's not PIS then. It's just Liu Lame not living up to your high expectations of him. Knowing a few styles doesn't mean you can't be caught off guard. QC came out of nowhere while Lame was focused on Shang. Notice how you didn't see him until he was ready to strike. When a mystic of Quan's level don't want you to see him coming, you don't. Shang dropped the KLao guise 'cuz he wanted Kang to see him. He could have just hatdecapitated him. Kang fell to a well planned attack. No shame or PIS to be found. MK needed a break from him anyway, the only PIS was his return

Quan Chi was clearly walking around before he blasted Liu Kang in the back. He didn't do it the moment we saw him. Also, I'm not saying he should never have been caught off guard, I'm saying he should never have been caught off guard that easily and it was during a pause when it happened. Also, Shang Tsung turned back to normal before he approached Liu Kang and you can tell Liu Kang was alert. Now when Quan Chi is pretty much in the same spot, he's not? That's why I say it's PIS.

Then you're wrong & this is over. Shang was quite close to him(about leg's length) when he noticed him. Quan was a good distance away. Watch it again.

Shang never had to drop the guise. He did it 'cause he wanted Kang to see his face & see death coming

Originally posted by I-Drop
Then you're wrong & this is over. Shang was quite close to him when he noticed him. Quan was a good distance away. Watch it again

Quan Chi wasn't that far away.

Originally posted by SmashBro
Quan Chi was clearly walking around before he blasted Liu Kang in the back. He didn't do it the moment we saw him. Also, I'm not saying he should never have been caught off guard, I'm saying he should never have been caught off guard that easily and it was during a pause when it happened. Also, Shang Tsung turned back to normal before he approached Liu Kang and you can tell Liu Kang was alert. Now when Quan Chi is pretty much in the same spot, he's not? That's why I say it's PIS.
Stop whining. Liu Lame was beaten by two characters who equal him in fighting ability, and surpass him in versatility, get over it.

Ditto

Originally posted by SmashBro
Quan Chi wasn't that far away.
He was clearly farther away than Shang was when he got noticed. Look @ the travel time of the projectile

Originally posted by I-Drop
Ditto He was clearly farther away than Shang was when he got noticed. Look @ the travel time of the projectile

No, they were about in the same spot. Quan Chi wasn't that far away.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Stop whining. Liu Lame was beaten by two characters who equal him in fighting ability, and surpass him in versatility, get over it.

Your argument is pointless. Get over it!

its stuff like this that reminds me why I never bothered with Mortal Kombat 🙄

Originally posted by SmashBro
Your argument is pointless. Get over it!
Noice. You failed to address a single one of my points. Excellent debating ace.

Originally posted by Sado22
its stuff like this that reminds me why I never bothered with Mortal Kombat 🙄

Stuff like what?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Noice. You failed to address a single one of my points. Excellent debating ace.

I've asked you numerous times to explain yourself on Shang Tsung "multiple fighting styles" argument and you never did. Then you bring up your versatility argument and still didn't explain that. You failed to make a point and I'm getting more than a little tired of your empty arguments and cowardly moves (like avoiding to answer my question by trying to get me reported). It's flat out ridiculous. If you can't even explain your own point, then don't try to make it.

My God...You are STUPID.

YOU said that because Liu Kang knows multiple styles, he shouldn't have been jumped by them as easily.

I said Shang Tsung knows more styles, which I said to refute your argument that Liu should not be so easily jumped because he knows many styles, he doesn't have that advantage over him.

They being more versatile just add another advantage to Tsung and Quan.

There is NO WAY Liu should have survived that fight, and guess what? He didn't.

The only PIS was when Liu Lame came back.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
My God...You are STUPID.

YOU said that because Liu Kang knows multiple styles, he shouldn't have been jumped by them as easily.

I said Shang Tsung knows more styles, which I said to refute your argument that Liu should not be so easily jumped because he knows many styles, he doesn't have that advantage over him.

They being more versatile just add another advantage to Tsung and Quan.

There is NO WAY Liu should have survived that fight, and guess what? He didn't.

The only PIS was when Liu Lame came back.

You're one stubborn idiot! Did you read what I said? The fight wasn't strictly hand-to-hand and it didn't last long so saying Shang Tsung knows more styles doesn't mean squat. Liu Kang got blasted in the back and Shang Tsung immediately snapped his neck, that had NOTHING to do with Shang Tsung's style.

And the versatile argument is pointless too. The fight wasn't even that long and there was hardly anything that happened; Liu Kang and Shang Tsung was fighting, Shang Tsung ended up on the ground, Quan Chi blasted Liu in the back, Shang walked up to him and snapped his neck. That's it. All I'm saying that it was PIS, there was no way Liu Kang wouldn't have noticed Quan Chi lurking around there yet he did noticed Shang Tsung, who was pretty much in the same distance and Liu being a well trained martial artist himself and beaten powerful beings in the past, it would make sense if he did noticed him somehow. All that other stuff about Shang Tsung's styles or their versatility really didn't have anything do to with that.

...Being more versatile than Liu Lame with their powers helps them when it comes to the non-physical fighting dude...

And dude, he was preoccupied with Shang, and Quan cheapshotted him.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
...Being more versatile than Liu Lame with their powers helps them when it comes to the non-physical fighting dude...

Then explain how it helps in this case?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
And dude, he was preoccupied with Shang, and Quan cheapshotted him.

But how easily he got preoccupied is the point, dude.