Thor & Wonder Woman vs Thanos

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
Thanos ftw.

As for speed blitzing Thanos, it wouldn't work. Thanos has shown that although he can't travel at LS+ levels, he can react to those speeds.

For example, in the Infinity Gauntlet, he cut himself off from all sensory input from the Gauntlet, so had his usual reactions. He noticed, and avoided The Silver Surfer traveling at well over LS trying to grab the Gauntlet off him.

Diana isn't doing squat to Thanos, he' s laughed at hit's from far stronger people.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
in that same ark, thanos took a rabbit punch from thor when everyone was lunging for the dropped IG, he got up unconcerned in the next panel. a hit to his face with him seeing it and ready to defend would be infinitesimally effective.

Originally posted by fangirl101
Um, blah blah blah silly. wonder Woman moved so fast and tied amazo up that no one saw her move. Not even superman.THE DAMNED PANEL EVEN TALKS ABOUT HOW FAST SHE IS.SO THAT OF COURSE IS A SPEED BLITZ. You should buy the books you argue against. Your post is pretty much crap to me. I didn't even use the zoom incident as my main point. Someone else did. Please, if you are going to argue, at least buy wonder ****ing woman comics. Oh and Thor tagging surfer does not mean he blitzed Surfer. thor DIDN"T MOVE. He used his hammer and threw it in ANTICIPATION of where surfer would be.

Really i expected no less from. Completely ignoring my posts and going on senseless tirades. You gave a wrong definiton of a speedblitz and then ignored ur wrong definiton when it suited u. Laughable. U post wonderwoman ramming into a being and call it a speedblitz 🙄 You entirely fail to prove any of the ridiculous points u tried to make, and then u have the audacity to call my post crap? so because the the panel says how fast she is it must have been a speedblitz? Evn if it does not fall in line with the generally used definiton of speedblitzing? U have to be joking.

As for u asking me to read wonderwoman comics all it shows is ur inability to build a reasonable argument. There is really NO need for me to buy wondy comics if such a dedicatad fan of wondy such as urself is totally unable to provide any proof supporting her case. What will me buying wonderwoman comics do? Help you find and correctly interpret evidence to support ur case? 😱 Do u evn know what ur saying? I am arguing against something YOU say a character can and has done b4 and yet u have been unable to provide evn a sinlgle useful piece of ON panel evidence to support it. All the examples u provided (which are visible to all) have bin grossly misinterpreted and irrelevant. But u want ME to go and buy more wonderwoman comics in order to find out something u( an avid wonderwoman reader) have been unable to prove? U must be confused 😕

And oh i never said that thor hitting surfer with his hammer was a speedblitz i only compared it with an example i thought u had used( my bad).

All in all whether u consider wonderwoman ramming or lassoing someoen a speedblitz does not really matter because for wonderwoman to stand a chance against thanos, she has to be able to hit him superfast numerous times b4 he can react and u ( and all wonderwoman supporters in this thread), have been totally unable to show her doing.

Originally posted by h1a8
And if I find you a scan of WW speedblitzing will you truly say that she wins over Thanos? What is a speedblitz to you anyway?

I have the Thor comic in my lap and don't see where Thanos says this. What are you talking about? And I own quite a few Thor comics my friend.

Who cares if someone can speedblitz? Its just semantics we're arguing about right? All that matters is if a character can attack the opponent before they can respond. Whether it is a speedblitz or not is moot, for it is an automatic win regardless. And there's plenty hard evidence that points out that WW can indeed attack many before they can respond. What say you?

And you won't be able to win the argument that Odin can win over Superman so it is smart to ignore it.

I said the only way she evn stands a chance against thanos is if she speedblitzes.

. If u did have the blood and thunder series, u wud see that thanos said that evn while imprisoned in the block thor was still calling upon the might of the PG. Warlock chronicles 08.

And really do u seriously think that if a character attacks b4 another character can respond it is an automatic win?

Really the last part of ur post is a joke and ill just leave it at that. If u feel supes is really more powerful than odin why dont u make a thread about it. Im sure u will see many interesting responses( that is if they can come in b4 the stupid thread is closed).

Originally posted by h1a8
By logic, if you can hit someone once before they can react (assuming they are ready) then you can hit them again. This is because the moment they are hit their reaction time drops due to being temporarily stun. So your second attack can be less fast as the first. And Thor was comboing Thanos and others before. He was just too stupid to continue.

And I was using your definition of speedblitz (not mine) to defeat you. You say that multiple hits are needed before the opponent can respond and I say those multiple hits will come after the first hit. Thus character A has hit character B 100 times before B could respond. So by your definition this is a speedblitz.

And a combo involves a first hit (not one hit). My point is that if A hits B once (not exactly once) then A wins. This is because they will continue to hit them until they are koed.

Actually that logic does not fly. If u can hit someone b4 they react being able to hit them again wud depend on ur ability to reload and initiate another attack in comparison with how stunned the person actually is and how badly there reaction time wud be affected. If i can hit u once b4 u react but my hit barely phases u then me hitting u more than once in the same period of time wud be highly unlikely. Also evn if ur hit does phase me i might still be able to respond to ur next hit. Ur reasoning is equivalent to saying if a person is hit first in a fight that he will be unable to block any other attemepted hits by his opponent because his reaction time will drop. This is without taking into consideration how the speed of the opponent in firing off another hit compares with the level to which u r stunned.

Also let me clear this up. U said that hitting a character one time b4 they can respond is a speedblitz. Hence evn if they can respond b4 u can initiate the second hit what uve done can be classified as speedblitzing. U howver defined a bullrush in which a character adds on hits as a speedblitz( more than one). What i was pointing out is that since by ur definiton a character needs to only be hit once to speedblitz then u shud hve simply equated a normal bullrush( initial hit) with a speedblitz and not used the word combo which implies more than one hit.

In line with what i said, character A hitting character B numerous times b4 they can respond depends on numerous things and in the case of wonderwoman and thanos it is highly unlikely or shud i say downright impossible for her to use ur combo to ko tactic to beat thanos. This is because for wonderwoman to actually affect thanos in any way( her first hit is not going to stun him) she will need to land numerous hits b4 he can react, something u have not proven she can do.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I said the only way she evn stands a chance against thanos is if she speedblitzes.

. If u did have the blood and thunder series, u wud see that thanos said that evn while imprisoned in the block thor was still calling upon the might of the PG. Warlock chronicles 08.

And really do u seriously think that if a character attacks b4 another character can respond it is an automatic win?

Really the last part of ur post is a joke and ill just leave it at that. If u feel supes is really more powerful than odin why dont u make a thread about it. Im sure u will see many interesting responses( that is if they can come in b4 the stupid thread is closed).

Odin is much more powerful than Superman. But being more powerful than another doesn't mean you necessarily and automatically must win over them. Lex Luthor with some lead and krytonite can beat Superman but that doesn't mean that he is more powerful. Superman beats Odin due to him being faster and Odin having less durability than Thor himself.

I don't think I have Warlock Chronicles 08. I have to look thru my collection again. But I have many (if not all) of the Blood and Thunder series. Especially the one where Thor was fighting Thanos. So if you be so kind and put a scan up for me showing this.

Not only attack b4 they can respond but land a blow before they can respond. If this happens, along with that blow having any stun value, then yes it is an automatic win.

Actually that logic does not fly. If u can hit someone b4 they react being able to hit them again wud depend on ur ability to reload and initiate another attack in comparison with how stunned the person actually is and how badly there reaction time wud be affected. If i can hit u once b4 u react but my hit barely phases u then me hitting u more than once in the same period of time wud be highly unlikely. Also evn if ur hit does phase me i might still be able to respond to ur next hit. Ur reasoning is equivalent to saying if a person is hit first in a fight that he will be unable to block any other attemepted hits by his opponent because his reaction time will drop. This is without taking into consideration how the speed of the opponent in firing off another hit compares with the level to which u r stunned.

No! You don't understand what I mean when I said the reaction time will drop after the first hit. So let me put it another way. A stun hit causes one's response frame to reset back to 0 because the opponent is stunned (no matter how brief). Now if the attack doesn't reset the response frame back to 0 then the attack failed to stun (any amount). For the definition of being stunned is to have your response frame reset. Now since the attacker was fast enough to initiate the first landed blow before the non-stunned opponent could respond then clearly the attacker can land another blow. This is because there is added time to initiated the second blow-the time it takes for the opponent to come out of the stun plus the time to launch an attack before the non-stunned opponent can respond. Thus time needed to sucessfully land the second attack< the time it takes to land the first.

I understand what you mean by the attacker needed to reload, forcing more time to launch the second attack than the first. So if the stun is small then it is possible for the opponent to break free of the stun (while the attacker is still going foward with the strike and or reloading) and have that extra head start to try to combat the second attack. But this is defeated by an attacker pulling their attack hand back while simultaneously launching another attack with the other hand (assuming the opponent doesn't break free of the stun while the attacker's hand is still going forward through them). But this is moot since WW is sufficiently strong enough to to stun Thanos long enough to launch a second attack without having to resort to that tactic.

No! A criterion (not definition) for doing a speedblitz is hitting a character b4 they can respond. You must add on hits after the first to fully become a speedblitz (according to your definition). But this is moot due to a character winning after the first hit (whether you call it a speedblitz or not).

In line with what i said, character A hitting character B numerous times b4 they can respond depends on numerous things and in the case of wonderwoman and thanos it is highly unlikely or shud i say downright impossible for her to use ur combo to ko tactic to beat thanos. This is because for wonderwoman to actually affect thanos in any way( her first hit is not going to stun him) she will need to land numerous hits b4 he can react, something u have not proven she can do.

WW's first hit is capable of seriously staggering Thanos with one blow. She is capable of lifting the weight of the entire Earth or more. D.C. >>>> Marvel by feats on average. D.C.s top average range is like 1 billion to 1x10^22 tons vs. Marvel's 100 to 100,000 tons (I'm estimating the average range of course). Also WW can have the tiara in hand to one-hit decapitate Thanos (she doesn't need to punch combo him with her bare hands).

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin is much more powerful than Superman. But being more powerful than another doesn't mean you necessarily and automatically must win over them. Lex Luthor with some lead and krytonite can beat Superman but that doesn't mean that he is more powerful. Superman beats Odin due to him being faster and Odin having less durability than Thor himself.

I don't think I have Warlock Chronicles 08. I have to look thru my collection again. But I have many (if not all) of the Blood and Thunder series. Especially the one where Thor was fighting Thanos. So if you be so kind and put a scan up for me showing this.

Not only attack b4 they can respond but land a blow before they can respond. If this happens, along with that blow having any stun value, then yes it is an automatic win.

No! You don't understand what I mean when I said the reaction time will drop after the first hit. So let me put it another way. A stun hit causes one's response frame to reset back to 0 because the opponent is stunned (no matter how brief). Now if the attack doesn't reset the response frame back to 0 then the attack failed to stun (any amount). For the definition of being stunned is to have your response frame reset. Now since the attacker was fast enough to initiate the first landed blow before the [B]non-stunned opponent could respond then clearly the attacker can land another blow. This is because there is added time to initiated the second blow-the time it takes for the opponent to come out of the stun plus the time to launch an attack before the non-stunned opponent can respond. Thus time needed to sucessfully land the second attack< the time it takes to land the first.

I understand what you mean by the attacker needed to reload, forcing more time to launch the second attack than the first. So if the stun is small then it is possible for the opponent to break free of the stun (while the attacker is still going foward with the strike and or reloading) and have that extra head start to try to combat the second attack. But this is defeated by an attacker pulling their attack hand back while simultaneously launching another attack with the other hand (assuming the opponent doesn't break free of the stun while the attacker's hand is still going forward through them). But this is moot since WW is sufficiently strong enough to to stun Thanos long enough to launch a second attack without having to resort to that tactic.

No! A criterion (not definition) for doing a speedblitz is hitting a character b4 they can respond. You must add on hits after the first to fully become a speedblitz (according to your definition). But this is moot due to a character winning after the first hit (whether you call it a speedblitz or not).

WW's first hit is capable of seriously staggering Thanos with one blow. She is capable of lifting the weight of the entire Earth or more. D.C. >>>> Marvel by feats on average. D.C.s top average range is like 1 billion to 1x10^22 tons vs. Marvel's 100 to 100,000 tons (I'm estimating the average range of course). Also WW can have the tiara in hand to one-hit decapitate Thanos (she doesn't need to punch combo him with her bare hands). [/B]

wow...that is all i can say to all of ur posts

Originally posted by h1a8
Odin is much more powerful than Superman. But being more powerful than another doesn't mean you necessarily and automatically must win over them. Lex Luthor with some lead and krytonite can beat Superman but that doesn't mean that he is more powerful. Superman beats Odin due to him being faster and Odin having less durability than Thor himself.

I don't think I have Warlock Chronicles 08. I have to look thru my collection again. But I have many (if not all) of the Blood and Thunder series. Especially the one where Thor was fighting Thanos. So if you be so kind and put a scan up for me showing this.

Not only attack b4 they can respond but land a blow before they can respond. If this happens, along with that blow having any stun value, then yes it is an automatic win.

No! You don't understand what I mean when I said the reaction time will drop after the first hit. So let me put it another way. A stun hit causes one's response frame to reset back to 0 because the opponent is stunned (no matter how brief). Now if the attack doesn't reset the response frame back to 0 then the attack failed to stun (any amount). For the definition of being stunned is to have your response frame reset. Now since the attacker was fast enough to initiate the first landed blow before the [B]non-stunned opponent could respond then clearly the attacker can land another blow. This is because there is added time to initiated the second blow-the time it takes for the opponent to come out of the stun plus the time to launch an attack before the non-stunned opponent can respond. Thus time needed to sucessfully land the second attack< the time it takes to land the first.

I understand what you mean by the attacker needed to reload, forcing more time to launch the second attack than the first. So if the stun is small then it is possible for the opponent to break free of the stun (while the attacker is still going foward with the strike and or reloading) and have that extra head start to try to combat the second attack. But this is defeated by an attacker pulling their attack hand back while simultaneously launching another attack with the other hand (assuming the opponent doesn't break free of the stun while the attacker's hand is still going forward through them). But this is moot since WW is sufficiently strong enough to to stun Thanos long enough to launch a second attack without having to resort to that tactic.

No! A criterion (not definition) for doing a speedblitz is hitting a character b4 they can respond. You must add on hits after the first to fully become a speedblitz (according to your definition). But this is moot due to a character winning after the first hit (whether you call it a speedblitz or not).

WW's first hit is capable of seriously staggering Thanos with one blow. She is capable of lifting the weight of the entire Earth or more. D.C. >>>> Marvel by feats on average. D.C.s top average range is like 1 billion to 1x10^22 tons vs. Marvel's 100 to 100,000 tons (I'm estimating the average range of course). Also WW can have the tiara in hand to one-hit decapitate Thanos (she doesn't need to punch combo him with her bare hands). [/B]

I really have nothing to say 2 u regarding ur plainly daft Odin vs supes argument so i will just ignore it.

Also Warlock chronicles 08 is the comic immediately after the thor thanos fight. Where all the heroes are gathered in thanos spaceship. If i have time i might scan the page. But since u say u have all of blood and thunder then u shud be able to get it and read thanos statement which is totally clear and unambiguous.

Now ur logic is heavily flawed and is not applicable practically. How can u say that landing a blow that stuns ur opponent b4 they can respond is an automatic win? It seems u have not witnessed many fights cuz if u had u wud know that this is not true. U r basically saying that if i hit u with my first attack and ur hurt, and if i continue trying to attack u then u have no possible way of winning the fight because u wont be able to respond to my attacks. Have u never seen people who are getting rushed still manage to avoid or block some( not all) of the punches from the opponent trying to rush them? U r completely discounting variables such as skill and agility etc. And for u to evn aply this logic which is largely faulty evn in real world fights, to fights in comics which have so many aspects to them and involve way more than just physical attributes and prowess is completely unbelievable 😱.

Ok now to the next part. There is a difference btween stunning someone heavily, to a point that the person is completely dazed and only lightly stunning a person. Evn u acknowledge that. Now like i said, even if a person can land a first attack it will take more time to reload and land a second attack. If the attack does not stun the person to heavily then the persons reaction times can and will revert back to normal quickly and the person will have time to react to the second blow bcuz of the time it will take the attacking person to reload and initiate the second blow plus the time it takes the blow to actually connect. How else do u think people avoid or block blows when they are being rushed?

Also if a person tries to land hits one after the other with both hands as u hve suggested( trying to move both hands forward and backward simultaneously), the speed and power of the subsequent hits will not be the same as that of the first hit and certainly wont have the same effect. That is really not an effective tactic. Wonderwoman howver is certainly not going to be dazing thanos with her first hit. For wondy to hurt thanos, will take multiple high quality hits.

To ur next part, It seems u now understand that a the belief that saying a person who simply hits once b4 they can react is a speedblitz is wrong. I have explained above that ur theory of a character winning after the first hit is completely false and does not apply to even real world fights. Howver it is totally absurd to use it in comic world fights were characters have other ways of fighting aside physical means, such as mental attacks,forcefields, instant encasement etc.

To ur next part, It seems u now understand that the belief that saying a person who simply hits once b4 they can react is a speedblitz is not in line with how the term speedblitz is normally used. I have also explained above that ur theory of a character winning after the first hit is wrong even in real world fights and is comletely out of place in comic fights.

Wonderwoman cannot heavily stagger thanos with one blow, For wonderwoman to KO thanos at all will take a huge amount of time. Thanos was able to take numerous attacks from mjolnir from a WM thor using the power gem. How u believe DC and Marvel compare to each other strength wise, is irrelevant because it is a known fact that Wonderwoman and thor are peers in the strength department( by feats), and WM thor with the Pg is multiple times WW strength. The fact that he was using mjolnir only serves to increase the strength of the hits thanos was taking. Never in their fight was he dazed or greatly staggered. He certainly wont be greatly staggered by a single wonderwoman punch. Also wonderwomans tiara will not be beheading thanos and can easily be countered by thanos.

Really ur entire arguement is based on some of the most ridiculous assumptions and fallacies ive ever heard. For ur arguement to have any credibility,

1. Thanos wud have to be a " pillow man" as u put it with savage hulk level durability
2. Wonderwoman wud have to be millions of times stronger than WM thor with the PG
3.Wonderwoman wud need to have the ability to land numerous hits on thanos b4 he can react( something which u have not proven)

Thanos wud also need to forget a whole host of his powers for thor and wondy to defeat him. Really im getting tired of this, so if u actually think that Wonderwoman is millions of times stronger than thor, and that thanos has hulk level durability and is a " pillow man", and that anyone who lands the first hit in a fight wins, then good luck to u. There is no need in continuing this discussion as most reasonable posters already know that wonderwoman alone cant beat thanos and that this team loses as well.

Originally posted by ultimatethor
I really have nothing to say 2 u regarding ur plainly daft Odin vs supes argument so i will just ignore it.

Also Warlock chronicles 08 is the comic immediately after the thor thanos fight. Where all the heroes are gathered in thanos spaceship. If i have time i might scan the page. But since u say u have all of blood and thunder then u shud be able to get it and read thanos statement which is totally clear and unambiguous.

Now ur logic is heavily flawed and is not applicable practically. How can u say that landing a blow that stuns ur opponent b4 they can respond is an automatic win? It seems u have not witnessed many fights cuz if u had u wud know that this is not true. U r basically saying that if i hit u with my first attack and ur hurt, and if i continue trying to attack u then u have no possible way of winning the fight because u wont be able to respond to my attacks. Have u never seen people who are getting rushed still manage to avoid or block some( not all) of the punches from the opponent trying to rush them? U r completely discounting variables such as skill and agility etc. And for u to evn aply this logic which is largely faulty evn in real world fights, to fights in comics which have so many aspects to them and involve way more than just physical attributes and prowess is completely unbelievable 😱.

Look at the one-two combination Thor gave Thanos in #7. This is what I'm talking about.

Ok now to the next part. There is a difference btween stunning someone heavily, to a point that the person is completely dazed and only lightly stunning a person. Evn u acknowledge that. Now like i said, even if a person can land a first attack it will take more time to reload and land a second attack. If the attack does not stun the person to heavily then the persons reaction times can and will revert back to normal quickly and the person will have time to react to the second blow bcuz of the time it will take the attacking person to reload and initiate the second blow plus the time it takes the blow to actually connect. How else do u think people avoid or block blows when they are being rushed?

Also if a person tries to land hits one after the other with both hands as u hve suggested( trying to move both hands forward and backward simultaneously), the speed and power of the subsequent hits will not be the same as that of the first hit and certainly wont have the same effect. That is really not an effective tactic. Wonderwoman howver is certainly not going to be dazing thanos with her first hit. For wondy to hurt thanos, will take multiple high quality hits.

To ur next part, It seems u now understand that a the belief that saying a person who simply hits once b4 they can react is a speedblitz is wrong. I have explained above that ur theory of a character winning after the first hit is completely false and does not apply to even real world fights. Howver it is totally absurd to use it in comic world fights were characters have other ways of fighting aside physical means, such as mental attacks,forcefields, instant encasement etc.

To ur next part, It seems u now understand that the belief that saying a person who simply hits once b4 they can react is a speedblitz is not in line with how the term speedblitz is normally used. I have also explained above that ur theory of a character winning after the first hit is wrong even in real world fights and is comletely out of place in comic fights.

Wonderwoman cannot heavily stagger thanos with one blow, For wonderwoman to KO thanos at all will take a huge amount of time. Thanos was able to take numerous attacks from mjolnir from a WM thor using the power gem. How u believe DC and Marvel compare to each other strength wise, is irrelevant because it is a known fact that Wonderwoman and thor are peers in the strength department( by feats), and WM thor with the Pg is multiple times WW strength. The fact that he was using mjolnir only serves to increase the strength of the hits thanos was taking. Never in their fight was he dazed or greatly staggered. He certainly wont be greatly staggered by a single wonderwoman punch. Also wonderwomans tiara will not be beheading thanos and can easily be countered by thanos.

Thanos is a big pillow (like Hulk is). He can all be puntured, forced to bleed, cut by bone claws (non canon though) with much lessor power than a D.C. top tier. His durability lies in being somewhat barely bulletproof hard while having energy absorption power and a HF through controlling his structure. Why do many think that Thanos is hard like say a Colossus, Superman, or Juggernaut? He can easily be decapitated by the Thing with adamantium claws. The tiara is just as effectively indestructible and sharp to his flesh but WW is supplying the power.

Really ur entire arguement is based on some of the most ridiculous assumptions and fallacies ive ever heard. For ur arguement to have any credibility,

1. Thanos wud have to be a " pillow man" as u put it with savage hulk level durability
2. Wonderwoman wud have to be millions of times stronger than WM thor with the PG
3.Wonderwoman wud need to have the ability to land numerous hits on thanos b4 he can react( something which u have not proven)

Thanos wud also need to forget a whole host of his powers for thor and wondy to defeat him. Really im getting tired of this, so if u actually think that Wonderwoman is millions of times stronger than thor, and that thanos has hulk level durability and is a " pillow man", and that anyone who lands the first hit in a fight wins, then good luck to u. There is no need in continuing this discussion as most reasonable posters already know that wonderwoman alone cant beat thanos and that this team loses as well.

Thanos can blast all he wants. Those blasts will be sent back to him.
His best chance is to create a forcefield around himself. At least he would last a good while in this fight before his field crumbles.

And know that I don't care about popular opinion. I only care about logic. If I feel my logic is correct then I have no problem of being against the world (even if I'm actually wrong). I'm not a follower and I pity all those who are. One must think for himself. And I'm thinking Speed is the king of nearly all things.

I'm curious if anybody is reading this discussion besides the ones that are having it.

Hmm Wonder Woman and current Thor win this........seeing as what Odin can do alone back in the day and Thor has Odin's power toppled together with his own then the duo win......

Originally posted by RageOfTheGods
Hmm Wonder Woman and current Thor win this........seeing as what Odin can do alone back in the day and Thor has Odin's power toppled together with his own then the duo win......

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor hasnt proven he is on Odin's level or anywhere near it.

Well I would take Odin's Raven's and Odin's word.......he said the throne is Thor's and so is the power.........

I think that since his rebirth he was already severely diminished but was to busy to go into the Thor Sleep........once all the Asgardians were free he succumbed to it and it pushed him over the edge.......that would explain why he would need the Thor Sleep........

I can't get over this fool saying Thor is 1 million times stronger then WM Thor with PG. Please show me proof of such an outlandish statement. I don't want to see strength feats as thor has man I want to see how you quantify those feats mathmatically in coming up with your number. Either that or show me a bio where it compares the 2 Heroes. I think this argument has been setttled long ago with the vast majority saying thanos takes this pretty easily. Not a stomp but in the end he wil be victorious.

Thor is physically superior to Wonder Woman........

Anyways Current Thor and Wonder Woman win this.........

^^^^ Nope and most don't agree either.

Red Hulk would defeat Odin in battle? Thor is still much too green to even be compared to a weaker Skyfather than Odin, he hasn't even earned the right to wear Odin's armor.... he's just trying to hold down the fort in his daddy's absence.

I would hope that Odin could defeat the Red Hulk with relative ease.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic

I would hope that Odin could defeat the Red Hulk with relative ease.

No way pal, that would be sense, and we all know how Leob feels about that 😱

Originally posted by RageOfTheGods
Well I would take Odin's Raven's and Odin's word.......he said the throne is Thor's and so is the power.........

I think that since his rebirth he was already severely diminished but was to busy to go into the Thor Sleep........once all the Asgardians were free he succumbed to it and it pushed him over the edge.......that would explain why he would need the Thor Sleep........

I guess we just disagree.

Thor and Wonder Woman for the win