I'm pretty sure Malachor only boosts Dark Side users, rather than harming/dampening Light users.
Sabers: Team.
Force: Sidious.
All-out: Probably Sidious.
I can't see the team getting close enough to Sidious without him sensing it first. Plus he's fast enough (the whole, blur thing) to create space. Then it's just Force Lightning/Storm...
Originally posted by Gideon
Both are pretty hardcore. But only one can wipe out fleets.
ROTS Sidious cannot take Mace and Yoda together. They would destroy ROTS Sidious in no time. If DE Sidious is not exceed ROTS Sidious by a large amount then I do not see how he would be able to take Yoda and Mace even on Malachor V.
Originally posted by Kotor3He didn't say that DE Sidious does not exceed his ROTS counterpart by much, now did he?
ROTS Sidious cannot take Mace and Yoda together. They would destroy ROTS Sidious in no time. If DE Sidious is not exceed ROTS Sidious by a large amount then I do not see how he would be able to take Yoda and Mace even on Malachor V.
By Dark Empire, Sidious can wipe out an entire fleet. What does that tell you about his power?
Originally posted by Kotor3
ROTS Sidious cannot take Mace and Yoda together. They would destroy ROTS Sidious in no time. If DE Sidious is not exceed ROTS Sidious by a large amount then I do not see how he would be able to take Yoda and Mace even on Malachor V.
I am in awe of your sudden inability to comprehend simple words. I said that both are pretty hardcore, but only one can destroy fleets. For those of us void of common sense: that means that, while both are very powerful, Palpatine circa Dark Empire is capable of destroying fleets with the Force. Conclusion? Palpatine's a lot more powerful in DE.
Originally posted by Gideon
I am in awe of your sudden inability to comprehend simple words. I said that both are pretty hardcore, but only one can destroy fleets. For those of us void of common sense: that means that, while both are very powerful, Palpatine circa Dark Empire is capable of destroying fleets with the Force. Conclusion? Palpatine's a lot more powerful in DE.
Well I am in awe of you inability to give good explainations. Really you mean to tell me that is the only difference between the two?
Shadow could make stars supernova was that through pure force ability? Don't worry I do not need you to give me anymore explainations.
According to my knowledge DE Sidious could do things through pure force ability. A separation between him and other siths before him.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Well I am in awe of you inability to give good explainations. Really you mean to tell me that is the only difference between the two?
LOL. I thought it would have been very clear. Palpatine circa Revenge of the Sith is already established as the most powerful Sith Lord in history, an incredibly gifted combatant, and with an unimaginable command of the Force; Palpatine circa Dark Empire has had the benefit of more than twenty years of further study in all aspects of the Force -- he has mastered all of the previously known techniques, previously unknown techniques, and devises new ones at his pleasure (Dark Empire Sourcebook) -- and is capable of using the Force to destroy fleets of ships each capable of resisting gigatons of damage. What conclusion would anyone draw? Palpatine is a great deal superior to his previous incarnation in hard feats.
Shadow could make stars supernova was that through pure force ability? Don't worry I do not need you to give me anymore explainations.
Naga Sadow relied on alchemy, Sith arcana, and his Force-imbuing flagship. Palpatine performed all of his feats without aid.
According to my knowledge DE Sidious could do things through pure force ability. A separation between him and other siths before him.
Correct. Which makes your earlier statement and subsequent insult rather inept.
Originally posted by Gideon
LOL. I thought it would have been very clear. Palpatine circa Revenge of the Sith is already established as the most powerful Sith Lord in history, an incredibly gifted combatant, and with an unimaginable command of the Force; Palpatine circa Dark Empire has had the benefit of more than twenty years of further study in all aspects of the Force -- he has mastered all of the previously known techniques, previously unknown techniques, and devises new ones at his pleasure (Dark Empire Sourcebook) -- and is capable of using the Force to destroy fleets of ships each capable of resisting gigatons of damage. What conclusion would anyone draw? Palpatine is a great deal superior to his previous incarnation in hard feats.Naga Sadow relied on alchemy, Sith arcana, and his Force-imbuing flagship. Palpatine performed all of his feats without aid.
Correct. Which makes your earlier statement and subsequent insult rather inept.
First thing is wasn't an insult it was the truth. His explaination was not clear.
I thought it would have been very clear.
Well next time before you throw an insult don't thing someone already has the knowlege or knows what you are talking about. There is a saying there is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
Your answer above is much more clear. Thx
Originally posted by Gideon
he has mastered all of the previously known techniques, previously unknown techniques, and devises new ones at his pleasure (Dark Empire Sourcebook)
WTH? Are you sure about that? If I recall correctly, the quote had said that "it is believed" or something to that effect - not that he actually has.
Originally posted by Advent
WTH? Are you sure about that? If I recall correctly, the quote had said that "it is believed" or something to that effect - not that he actually [b]has. [/B]
The Dark Empire Sourcebook is no longer accessible to me (thank LS). I simply go off of the numerous discussions at SD.net. It seems to be confirmed, since he's also stated as the person who has "embraced the dark side fully" (LoE) and mastered a shitload of arcane Force techniques from a very long list of cults, groups, and factions.
In addition, I found this:
As noted earlier, Palpatine must have become a Sith Lord no later than 23 BrS or so, being apprenticed to Darth Plagueis, whom he betrayed and
murdered in order to become the reigning Sith Master, devoting an extraordinary amount of time and effort into study; the Dark Empire Sourcebook
mentions that after becoming Galactic Emperor he "gathered the greatest works of knowledge from over a million worlds" and "studied the Force in all its
guises throughout the galaxy, whether it was the shamanism of the Jarvashqiine or the tales of the Tyia," to the point that "he had long ago gone beyond
any knowledge to be found in the recovered teachings of the Krath or the Heresiarchs." In The New Essential Guide to Characters, the scribe writes that
"Palpatine was known to have studied [the Sorcerers of Tund] prior to their destruction." In Revenge of the Sith it is said that "wherever darkness
dwelled, the shadow [Sidious] could send perception"; his own Sith Apprentice, Darth Tyranus, described him as "an event horizon," "absolute, perfect
nothingness," "darkness beyond darkness," and "a black hole of the Force."