Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
At that point he is Vader, not Anakin.
That would assume that he somehow just gained the "uber" (lack of a better word) powers the moment he went evil, since Sidious didn't train him at all in the time between him turning evil and doning the Vader suit. Which is a nonsense assumption.
He must have had those powers before, unless there's some SW written rule that once a Jedi turns to the dark, he/she suddenly gains new powers?
Originally posted by RobtardSure, Annie had the potential throughout ROTS to use these powers, but they are of the dark side, therefore the Jedi, who abide by a strict code, cannot use them.
That would assume that he somehow just gained the "uber" (lack of a better word) powers the moment he went evil, since Sidious didn't train him at all in the time between him turning evil and doning the Vader suit. Which is a nonsense assumption.He must have had those powers before, unless there's some SW written rule that once a Jedi turns to the dark, he/she suddenly gains new powers?
Anakin even while he was a Jedi used anger and rage to give him "focus" during battles, which are undoubtedly the characteristics of a sith.
Anyway, what is the specific debate here? When Anakin became Darth Vader?
Well, IMO, Anakin has always gone down hill since he killed the Sand People and has slowly but surely been turning to the dark side.
To me being a Sith or called a "Darth" is just a simple name for force users who are "evil".
Afterall, Windu is able to access Dark side abilities yet he isnt a Sith because he is "good".
Originally posted by PlacidityYes, he tapped into the dark side from time to time, but when he killed Mace, he pledged himself to darkness and accepted Sith tutelage.
Anakin even while he was a Jedi used anger and rage to give him "focus" during battles, which are undoubtedly the characteristics of a sith.
Anyway, what is the specific debate here? When Anakin became Darth Vader?Thats where the debate is at this moment, yes.
Well, IMO, Anakin has always gone down hill since he killed the Sand People and has slowly but surely been turning to the dark side.Indeed.
To me being a Sith or called a "Darth" is just a simple name for force users who are "evil".There's more to it, Sith is a traditional way of being, as is Jedi.
Afterall, Windu is able to access Dark side abilities yet he isnt a Sith because he is "good".Experienced, better able to know when to cut off the connection, how far to take it.
Here's just some snippets on Vapaad to help those non-Star Wars nerds.
Vaapad bordered on the edge of falling to the dark side, as it channeled one's enjoyment of fighting into the attack. Only Windu's mastery and concentration on the light side prevented him from succumbing to his own anger, which is why Vaapad was rarely practiced and very dangerous. As noted above, the only other known practitioners of Vaapad, Sora Bulq and Depa Billaba both fell to the dark side of the Force. Darth Maul, a Sith Lord who appeared to have mastered Juyo, was so immersed in the dark side, yet so much in control of his anger that he could employ his own deadly variant of Juyo without fear...
... With that said, Vaapad was not just a fighting style. It was a state of mind and a power. The state of mind required that a user of Vaapad allow themselves to gather thrill from a battle. The power of Vaapad was simple: it was a channel for one's inner darkness; and it was a reflecting device. With strict control, a Jedi's own emotions and inner darkness could be changed into a weapon of the light.
Vaapad was also described as "a superconducting loop," with the user on one end and the opponent on the other. It was able to take the powers of the opponent and reflect it back at them. In his fight with Palpatine, Mace Windu used the Chancellor's own speed and hatred against him, reflecting it back against the Sith Lord and using it as his own power. Also, when Palpatine unleashed his Force lightning on Windu, the Jedi was able to use his lightsaber, with the power of Vaapad, to reflect the lightning back at him.