Originally posted by Bardock42
No, what I said.
Well, considering you haven't named those problems, name them.
If you're talking about the circumvention of the entire reason for the ESA and actually doing more harm than good, great. Maybe those holes should be plugged and compensation given to those "confiscated".
Originally posted by dadudemon
Well, considering you haven't named those problems, name them.If you're talking about the circumvention of the entire reason for the ESA and actually doing more harm than good, great. Maybe those holes should be plugged and compensation given to those "confiscated".
Did.
Nevermind though, shall just ignore you and discuss with people actually interested in discussion.
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, you are talking about general environment issues. They are off-topic.Mostly through the extreme loss in value of a property when an "endangered" species is found on it. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone can afford to just buy the next land and built on it instead.
Here something from Wikipedia:
An oft cited anecdote is the red-cockaded woodpecker which nests in trees that are at least 80 years old. Ben Cone is a tree farmer in North Carolina who owns 7,200 acres (29 km²) of southern pines. In 1991, the federal government forced him to pay a biologist $8,000 to look for red cockaded woodpeckers on his land[7]. After they were found, the government forced him to set aside 1,560 acres (6.3 km²) of his land in order to protect the woodpecker habitat. This cost him an additional $1.8 million. The government did not compensate him for his losses. Originally, his family had allowed the trees to grow for 80 to 100 years before harvesting them. In order to prevent any further financial losses, Cone switched the rest of his acreage to a rotation of only 30 to 40 years, so it would no longer be a suitable habitat to the woodpecker. [8] Randal O'Toole, a libertarian economist and public policy analyst who studied this case, stated, "Cone was given no incentive to protect the bird... When landowners face stiff penalties for harboring endangered species, they minimize suitable habitat... The law creates incentives to destroy wildlife."
As I said, just watch the Penn and Teller episode, they make some valid points.
Besides, it's also just a way of giving the government more power again. Do we really need the government to be more powerful to sell us out more efficiently to the highest bidder?
in that situation i belive that although the people should be informed about an endangered species living on there property as long it remains suitable for the creature they shouldnt have to set any of it aside.
Originally posted by jalek moye
in that situation i belive that although the people should be informed about an endangered species living on there property as long it remains suitable for the creature they shouldnt have to set any of it aside.
Yeah, thing with your beliefs is that they COST A BITCHLOAD OF MONEY, in reality.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Did.
If you're talking about "the problem with the endangered species act is that it is harmful to real human people", it's just one problem and it's already be discussed. We discussed that, so to speak, in the previous thread I quoted you from as well.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Nevermind though, shall just ignore you and discuss with people actually interested in discussion.
Thus far, you've argued about two things that were a waste of time on both our parts. You argued an irrelevant point and an incorrect point. Schecter talks about me derailing this thread, yet, I'm not the one coming up with reasons to incorrectly argue.
It can't be Bardock, Schecter, can it? It has nothing to do with him, does it? 😐
Originally posted by Schecter
laughed at
I'm glad you're still using trolling as a way to get your laughs.
Originally posted by Schecter
no i just get a laugh when you troll me in one thread and then report and cry like a sissy in another.
Because you're looking for a reason to quarrel, you didn't realize that I was taking up for you and mocking KR and then have a laugh about you trolling me in the past.
Could you try to be a little less hostile all the time? Maybe that shit wouldn't go over your head, then.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Because you're looking for a reason to quarrel, you didn't realize that I was taking up for you and mocking KR and then have a laugh about you trolling me in the past.Could you try to be a little less hostile all the time? Maybe that shit wouldn't go over your head, then.
oh you're doing that thing where you say something and then say you said something else. thats so cute. its like when a toddler covers their eyes and they think they're invisible.
Originally posted by Schecter
oh you're doing that thing where you say something and then say you said something else. thats so cute. its like when a toddler covers their eyes and they think they're invisible.
Really?
Why don't you quote me, point out where I'm mocking you, and make me eat my words?
I'm more than happy to admit I'm wrong and hypocritical...if it's true.
Edit-It's off topic for this thread. You may want to do it in the thread you're referring to, then post the link to your post here or PM me the link. 😐
Originally posted by Schecter
you just dont get it. your insults mean nothing to me. however they do give those whom you aim them at the right to call you a hypocritical sissy when you cry and report. why should i go on quoting every insult you ever posted about me? for what?
I thought you were referring to a specific instance...like the one to occurred recently that you misinterpreted.
If you're referring to the past*, great. We've gotten into trouble for those, remember? I'm through with the childish insult games with you...all it does it gets threads closed and warnings/bans dished out.
*Just in case you wanted to be a smart about that, I'm referring to stuff from a few months ago and back...you know, when we got threads closed n shit.
Originally posted by Mandos
Would all of you guys just cut off your penis, your ego and everything else that's off topic and just give it to Sanctuary's dog. This thread is going nowhere.
I've already said I would admit hyprocisy or fault if he quoted.
Also, bards was arguing with himself earlier.
You see, I'm a perfect little angel.
Originally posted by Mandos
Would all of you guys just cut off your penis, your ego and everything else that's off topic and just give it to Sanctuary's dog. This thread is going nowhere.
how does one cut off their ego?
Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought you were referring to a specific instance...like the one to occurred recently that you misinterpreted.If you're referring to the past, great. We've gotten into trouble for those, remember? I'm through with the childish insult games with you...all it does it gets threads closed and warnings/bans dished out.
still whining? maybe just report me a few more times while crying and eating bonbons. or you can just never address me again. that would suffice, but of course it will never happen.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought you were referring to a specific instance...like the one to occurred recently that you misinterpreted.If you're referring to the past, great. We've gotten into trouble for those, remember? I'm through with the childish insult games with you...all it does it gets threads closed and warnings/bans dished out.
I've already said I would admit hyprocisy or fault if he quoted.
Also, bards was arguing with himself earlier.
You see, I'm a perfect little angel.
Delusional.