Classic Beyonder vs FP The Source

Started by Dark-Jaxx2 pages

Originally posted by fangirl101
This is just all a hoot to me. The LT has always worked for the one above all. Just becuz we didn't know it means nothing. His bio doesn't say the one above all became his boss. No.

The beyonder couldn't have been all powerful from another reality when he's a marvel character. He wasn't from some seperate comic company and then all of a sudden he oozed in.

Oh and technically wouldn't all that the beyonder used to be, now be the marvel omniverse that the LT is actually more powerful than?

1. It was revealed that the LT worked for him, but the concept of the TOAA was not invented until after PR Beyonder's time or LT's appearance.

2. For the sake of a storyline, why couldn't he be?

3. Possibly. In size maybe. But in power, at least 90% of all the power in Marvel is in the Prime Multiverse, which Beyonder was much more powerful than.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. It was revealed that the LT worked for him, but the concept of the TOAA was not invented until after PR Beyonder's time or LT's appearance.

2. For the sake of a storyline, why couldn't he be?

3. Possibly. In size maybe. But in power, at least 90% of all the power in Marvel is in the Prime Multiverse, which Beyonder was much more powerful than.


Where does this say that 90% of all marvel power resides in the one universe? Is this a statement on panel? How can this be when the LT exist in all multiverses simultaneously. He is more than the marvel multiverse alone and he exist in them all at the same time. So if the concept of the one above was not invented until after the pr's time, that would mean that the lt was only a multiversal being then and that the beyonder really only punked a multiversal being. He has no omniversal feats, no supreme authority over everything. now does he.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Then you admit that The Source >>> Beyonder.
Since The Beyonder does NOT play any role in the grand design of TOAA.

MU can continue to exist without The Beyonder, whilst DCU cannot without The Source.

That's a non sequitur. Simply because a universe can exist without something, while another can't, doesn't prove that one is more powerful than the other. At all.

Especially when the Beyonder is BEYOND/OUTSIDE the mainstream Marvel Universe by his very nature.

Darkseid stalemated FP Source. He was created by The Source. So saying that just because A2 was created by A1, that A1 will always be the stronger, isn't correct at all. As was shown in DOTNGs.

Besides, DCU can't exist without Superman (I think). Does that mean he's more powerful than Eradicator? Of course not. Is Eradicator a created/artificial being? Yes. Is Eradicator's existence necessary for DCU to continue? Nope.

The Source as a combatant has virtually no feats, and any reality warping and creation of life feat he's accomplished The Beyonder has matched on panel and done it better. I give the win to Beyonder until The Source shows some...I don't know, backbone?

Source has been ignored before. Beyonder 1 shots.

Originally posted by Enyalus
That's a non sequitur. Simply because a universe can exist without something, while another can't, doesn't prove that one is more powerful than the other. At all.

Especially when the Beyonder is BEYOND/OUTSIDE the mainstream Marvel Universe by his very nature.

Darkseid stalemated FP Source. He was created by The Source. So saying that just because A2 was created by A1, that A1 will always be the stronger, isn't correct at all. As was shown in DOTNGs.

Besides, DCU can't exist without Superman (I think). Does that mean he's more powerful than Eradicator? Of course not. Is Eradicator a created/artificial being? Yes. Is Eradicator's existence necessary for DCU to continue? Nope.

The Source as a combatant has virtually no feats, and any reality warping and creation of life feat he's accomplished The Beyonder has matched on panel and done it better. I give the win to Beyonder until The Source shows some...I don't know, backbone?

Game, Set, Match.

Well said.

Originally posted by Enyalus

Darkseid stalemated FP Source. He was created by The Source. So saying that just because A2 was created by A1, that A1 will always be the stronger, isn't correct at all. As was shown in DOTNGs.

The Source can't possibly win when he's fighting against his OWN power
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In addition, Darksied was also amped by the elder gods and his own power.