No, leon.
I'll let the DMC fans answer some questions...if and ony if the answer is absolutely yes to all of them, can he even have a chance.
1. Can Dante produce levels of firepower far above this in a single attack?
YouTube video
Inu also has used his WS to destroy mountains casually.
That attack can not get through Naraku's barrier.
So, Dante needs something far stronger than that if he wants to actually get at Naraku.
2. Can Dante survive a corrosive miasma that can be produced in massive clouds in a second and that can both melt away mountains and forests in well under a minute/
3. Can Dante kill Naraku?
At this point, Naraku does not have his heart any longer. In terms of regenerative powers, Naraku and Dante aren't even in the same solar system. Naraku is more like Alucard or Majin Buu and can completely reform his body in a few seconds.
So, you have to prove:
-Dante is above a mountain buster.
-Dante can survive something that melted most of a mountain in a few seconds.
-Kill someone who's immortal and can regen his body in seconds
Oh and those are only Naraku's most basic powers. God forbid I start bringing in the Wind Tunnel or his psionic powers. Poor Dante be even dead-er..
dante has killed a conceptual being who was the embodiement of the concept of dispair and was made out of flames and cud destroy the earth. the savior, which was a statue as large as a tall mountain was magical creature magically powered which was beaten by dante. the structure covering saviour{which was large enough to be clearly visible from the horizon} was cut in one singloe slash by dante with his dimension cutting ability. dante has been to the underworld without much problem, he killed mundus who cud have destroyed the normal world. dante battles beings who move as fast as light {shadow, and neo knowights}. dante can warp dimensions and control time as well as teleport. he easily destroyed DEMONS who were as larger than the tallest skyscrapper. his regeneration is such that even when, as a teen, he was impaled by around 6 or 7 chest width scuthes of grim reapers with magic, he casually ate his pizza and went on to kill them all without even bothering to take out the scythes. he has been continuously impaled and recovers with ease from magical attacks. the only difference between him and naraku is that no1 has actually been able to slice and SEPERATE a part of dante's anatomy from his body, because he is so strong. dante easily took an explosion that destroyed an entire town.
so there u go, dante is lightyears ahead of naraku. as i said{and i say this being a HUGE fan of inuyasha in general} even naraku with the shikon no tama doesnt have a PRAYER against dante. this is an utter mismatch.
dante has killed a conceptual being who was the embodiement of the concept of dispair and was made out of flames and cud destroy the earth.
No one in DMC is anything approaching a planet buster.
the savior, which was a statue as large as a tall mountain was magical creature magically powered which was beaten by dante.
How did he beat it?
And what was it made out of? Being tall as a mountain =/= being as durable as one.
the structure covering saviour{which was large enough to be clearly visible from the horizon} was cut in one singloe slash by dante with his dimension cutting ability.
Dimension cutting? Hm. That be helpful here indeed.
dante has been to the underworld without much problem, he killed mundus who cud have destroyed the normal world.
The underworld? Oooh. How impressive!
Not.
And no, Mundus could not destroy the world.
dante battles beings who move as fast as light {shadow, and neo knowights}.
No one in DMC is lightspeed.
he easily destroyed DEMONS who were as larger than the tallest skyscrapper.
That is standard for Inuyasha.
Oh and Naraku can teleport.
And leon, you have lied several times and generally can't get facts straight.
I'll look for a better source and see how much of your claims are actually true.
The irony! I go looking for a reliable source to support your claim and I find:
Leonheartmm actually believes than Dante moves on lightspeed in his human form, while he isn't THAT fast even in his high demonic form(and he meant just combat/movement speed, not stuff like teleportation&time manipulations). Also he thinks that since Dante beats abstract beings like Despair Embodied, he has an offensive power equal to an abstract level being.
Wow, Leon. Talk about shot down. SHe' a Dante fan but she's not a liar like you. So, sorry, but most of your points just got trashed.
I was asked to judge that from the position of an expert in Dante. And I see some BS coming from Leon.
Sorry, I don't know WTF is that Naraku guy (my knowledge of anime sucks), but I was asked to sort out facts from BS.
First, let's see what version of Dante is used. DMC4 one aka 30years old Dante. The feats canon for him are the ones from DMC1, DMC3, official comics\manga and anime.
DMC2 and Nocturne (though Nocturne is canon only in terms of Dante's stats, that's basically a fanfiction depicting DMC2 Dante and other than Capcom-approved stats, brought from DMC2, non-canon) haven't happened yet by the time of DMC4- they depict 40 years old Dante.
So DMC2 is not avaliable here (not happened yet for the form of Dante used) and there go Despair Embodied feat and total control over Sparda form.
Dante's regeneration feats are good enough to allow him to take multiple stabs in vital organs like nothing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljVKGGWQHPs
Here's the "cutting through dimension" feat Leon adressed. That's the thing that allows Yamato to cut through anything on human plane of reality- be it a piece of bullshit or primary adamantium. It cuts through the human plane of reality itself, and the only weapons that can block it are the ones forged on demon plane of reality or divine one (thus non-human).
In DMC4 Dante depicts that in a couple of movies called "dimension slash".
Thanks Charlotte.
On the dimension-cutting sword, has it failed to cut anything?
ALso, what of worlds that don't have a "demon plane" but are in fact infested with demons? Naraku for instance lives on normal Earth but he is a demon who can travel to other planes of existence.
It seems kinda...bizarre to say he can cut adamantium but wouldn't be able to cut something less durable just because it's from another dimension.
Now onto "lightspeed foes". Fighting things like Hellhounds and Blitzes is impressive feat, but Dante himself IS NOT LIGHTSPEEDSTER. He has good enough reflexes to keep up with shadowporting\turning into energy foes. You doesn't need to be a Flash to beat the shit out of Nightcrawler which is an analogue of Hellhound porting. Also there's only finite number of suitable directions for attack, and low level demons aren't exactly Brainiacs in terms of intellegence. Dante, while sometimes overdoing with humor, is combat-smart enough to predict their moves.
Thus he can beat lightspeed foes (providing that "turning into energy" foes really move on lightspeed and don't suffer from SW blaster syndrome), but NOT an lightspeed mover himself. Though he's capable on instant movement via combat teleportation (an example is depicted in video above), he can't run\fly on lightspeed.
The top speed feat calculated was through comparing of Nero Angelo Vergil and Sparda Dante forms, as Vergil was depicted going at 1% of lightspeed in DMC1, and we know that "artificially ascended" Vergil's demonic form is NOT faster than Dante's Sparda form.
But that's about Sparda form and total control over it=DMC2, not DMC4- Dante has 4 years to master it yet.
The biggest Dante's trump cards in the fight- Yamato's "dimension slashing" properties, and Dreadnought "armour" from RG style, where Dante turns the absorbed energy of enemies' attack into armour giving him the properties of Juggernaut (the duration of effect depends on amouth of absorbed energy).
But since the "heart" thing is true, the fight is totally pointless here. Dante just can't win and that's spite.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Thanks Charlotte.On the dimension-cutting sword, has it failed to cut anything?
ALso, what of worlds that don't have a "demon plane" but are in fact infested with demons? Naraku for instance lives on normal Earth but he is a demon who can travel to other planes of existence.
It seems kinda...bizarre to say he can cut adamantium but wouldn't be able to cut something less durable just because it's from another dimension.
It failed to cut Rebellion, the weapon forged from the demonic metal by demons and belonging to Dante (previously belonging to Sparda).
It's not bizzare, since sword in fact doesn't cut through the matter, it cuts through... the place where the matter was (supported by the way Dimension Slash move executed- multiple mini-portals open in the air as the sword goes through it). In fact it opens mini-rift in place- a portal going through the matter. If the matter is from demonic plane of reality, then Yamato interacts with it just as any durable mystical sword.
Dante's father used Yamato's dimension cutting properties to open gates from Hell to Earth (none of Sparda's sons have since that discovered that Yamato can in fact "tear" the portals to hell and use it just to cut things, sometimes from distance and in cool-looking ways) that's why the Order hunted Yamato in DMC4.
Since Naraku is demon and belongs to multiple planes of existance, it's depending on many factors. Probably Yamato would be just regular sword forged from demonic metal- but Dante even as 17years old was skilled enough to cut things from distance with his default sword- Rebellion. That's simply a creation of energy wave by pumping his demonic energy into sword:
The only two swords having "dimension cutting" properties in DMCverse are Yamato and full power Sparda sword. Both are in Dante's possession in that fight, but as I've said above- they probably will affect Naraku just as regular ultra-durable swords in hands of skilled swordsman.
Fair enough then. I'll get some more vids of what Naraku can do and post them later.
However, can you tell me what is Dante's best durability feat? The vids I'm getting show Naraku melting a forest in his weaker form and in the form he is in now, disintegrating a mountain. He can unleash those attacks any time he wishes and in seconds.
So could Dante survive that?
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Fair enough then. I'll get some more vids of what Naraku can do and post them later.However, can you tell me what is Dante's best durability feat? The vids I'm getting show Naraku melting a forest in his weaker form and in the form he is in now, disintegrating a mountain. He can unleash those attacks any time he wishes and in seconds.
So could Dante survive that?
Dante has developed the immunity to demonic magic by the times of DMC2 (it's degree at DMC4 is unknown, but since at DMC4 he's already the strongest demonic entity on the planet and is totally bored because of not having worthy adversary, it's maybe 90% or something) and has resistance to elemental-based attacks, but it was relatively small stuff in terms of area effect.
He can, however, survive at the ground zero of powerful hellfire explosion (DMC1, taming the Ifrit) and takes lava like nothing. In DMC anime, directly preceeding DMC4 in terms of chronology, he takes on a demonic analogy of unsealed Alucard (who lashes out at him with all his might and was controlling a good piece of North America with his power (seeing by the pentagram spreading on the globe), yet got depowered\separated from his power by a DT flux of true Sparda form). Anime is lame, yet canon (the reason for Dante being in that thread, and it's place in chronology- before DMC4 (bored Dante fighting low level demons all the time minus last 2 episodes with Abigal where Dante finally goes all out, arranging "sparring match" with Trish to cure boredom somehow and all that stuff).
If Naraku uses demonic magic for his area attacks, then probably his performance against Dante would be poorer than expected. If it's an elemental magic with no demonic routes, then I see Dante's awesome healing factor and RG energy absorbtion\Juggernaut energy armour being his only saving grace.
Well if anything produced by a demon qualifies as demon energy or magic, then yes I guess it wouldn't work that well.
However it's not like a spell or DBZ ki blast. It's called Shōki (miasma in English) and it's a poison/corrosive substance. Naraku can make it a liquid (as he can produce lakes of the stuff) or a gas (when he creates huge clouds of it). So I dunno what that qualifies as.
Originally posted by Pyron_Knight
Well if anything produced by a demon qualifies as demon energy or magic, then yes I guess it wouldn't work that well.However it's not like a spell or DBZ ki blast. It's called Shōki (miasma in English) and it's a poison/corrosive substance. Naraku can make it a liquid (as he can produce lakes of the stuff) or a gas (when he creates huge clouds of it). So I dunno what that qualifies as.
One of the powers "composite Abigal" displayed worked that way (gotten from "wishmaker" demon), though on low level. It affected Dante when he's caught unaware, and both in anime and DMC1 magic resistance is "turned on" consciously. Though there both opponents are aware they're in combat and Dante will probably make a combination of his performance against "composite Abigal" and Mundus (Saviour was just a big ass statue animated with demonic magic, nothing impressive) thus giving his best performance against demonic magic (almost total immunity, and given "composite Abigal" feat, he was able to burn off his enchantments (sufficient to affect a good chunk of North America by demonic magic- creating a never ending horde of demons, a huge pentagram covering part of globe etc) just by making him defend against full out Sparda form for about 20 seconds- an unexperienced user of Abigal power has to put it all on defence against Dante going all out on him). Though Naraku is not an overpowered noob, so "composite Abigal" is not 100% accurate example.
But even in terms of "sucker punches" our handsome whitehaired half-demon can only be knocked out with that, not killed. And given that Naraku is truly unkillable, it probably ends in stalemate.
Wow. i completely forgot about that.
I wonder if Naraku could absorb Dante.
Charlotte, Naraku is made of hundreds of demons. He finds and absorbs other strong demons to gain more power.
One time he was skewered through the chest by a demon's arm and simply absorbed him that way. So I guess all he really has to do is weaken Dante and then touch him to start to pull the poor guy into his body.
I dunno if it would work though.
