the only thing cyber has is scratching orin badly enough to stop him from taking cyber out first, in a multitude of ways mind you.
and even if cyber does get a a large dose of venom into aqua-man, there is still ample amount of time to beat cyber to death (since further envenomation won't really matter at that point) then get the necessary medical attention to survive.
AM at least 9/10
Well, considering that the hand can dehydrate him as well, and you can't take the hand without leaving him with a stump, it's a safe bet he can use it.
Plus he just said h2h, he didn't say, h2h, no powers.
You can fight hand to hand and still use your powers, powerhouses for example. They fight h2h, but hitting hard enough bring down a building with a single punch qualifies as powers.
Originally posted by jinzin
His speedfeats on land have been outclassed by Batman in side to side comparisons. 😐I'm not going to deny he's strong, but if you're honestly trying to sell that he's near Supes' weight class.. you need your head examined.
I'm not going to deny he has decent durability feats... frankly so does Batman's suit, as does Deathstroke in DC.
However,
This whole pro-Aqua argument beckons us to believe that Aquaman can outfight an incredible fighter of Cyber's calibur and do so flawlessly. All Cyber needs is one friggin hit to the end the thing. Aquaman needs one well placed or lucky hit that ignores Cybers feats of durability already. 😬
AM has been mentioned in the same weight class as Clark, not saying he is his "peer"but he was merely compared...and given who AM has tangled with in the past it isn't hard to see why. He took a blast that KOéd Orion, withstood preasure that even kyles GL shield couldn't and physically dominated Despero. The fact that he can take a fully enraged shot from Diana speaks vollumes about his durability, the guy has held agaisnt elite 100's class and has occasionally roughed up elite heavyweights as well.
He has moved liberally agaisnt heavy tides in the deep ocean, and has noted he to being even faster and stronger on the surface. The ocean is a supression to him physically in a sense, like a weighted body suit. He can move at invisbly fast speeds while in water, on the surface he isn't physically taxed. While Im at it, he did rather compently agaisnt Deathstroke even while blinded...and by AM's own admission has stated as having even faster reflexes(Deathstroke has insane reflexes mind you). Basically I think AM is being very downplayed, and untill I see otherwise I don't see why Cyber would'nt just be another generic 100 tonner that AM hasn't already sealed and deilver.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
the only thing cyber has is scratching orin badly enough to stop him from taking cyber out first, in a multitude of ways mind you.and even if cyber does get a a large dose of venom into aqua-man, there is still ample amount of time to beat cyber to death (since further envenomation won't really matter at that point) then get the necessary medical attention to survive.
AM at least 9/10
His venom works instantaneously against someone like wolverine with his level of healing... One scratch is all he needs and there's really no sense in selling that short.
Originally posted by KingD19I guess that's fair enough but I interpreted it different.
Well, considering that the hand can dehydrate him as well, and you can't take the hand without leaving him with a stump, it's a safe bet he can use it.Plus he just said h2h, he didn't say, h2h, no powers.
You can fight hand to hand and still use your powers, powerhouses for example. They fight h2h, but hitting hard enough bring down a building with a single punch qualifies as powers.
Originally posted by Makky
AM has been mentioned in the same weight class as Clark, not saying he is his "peer"but he was merely compared...and given who AM has tangled with in the past it isn't hard to see why. He took a blast that KOéd Orion, withstood preasure that even kyles GL shield couldn't and physically dominated Despero. The fact that he can take a fully enraged shot from Diana speaks vollumes about his durability, the guy has held agaisnt elite 100's class and has occasionally roughed up elite heavyweights as well.
Originally posted by Makky
He has moved liberally agaisnt heavy tides in the deep ocean, and has noted he to being even faster and stronger on the surface. The ocean is a supression to him physically in a sense, like a weighted body suit. He can move at invisbly fast speeds while in water, on the surface he isn't physically taxed. While Im at it, he did rather compently agaisnt Deathstroke even while blinded...and by AM's own admission has stated as having even faster reflexes(Deathstroke has insane reflexes mind you). Basically I think AM is being very downplayed, and untill I see otherwise I don't see why Cyber would'nt just be another generic 100 tonner that AM hasn't already sealed and deilver.
Then please provide speed feats that make him untouchable to someone of Cyber's calibur.
Originally posted by jinzin
So once again, he's strong, he's not superman. He's durable, he's not more durable than Adimantium.Then please provide speed feats that make him untouchable to someone of Cyber's calibur.
I don't think you need to be at supes strength level to KO cyber personally. While he might not hit as hard as clark he's comparable in strength regardless hence why he was referenced as being in the same weight class. As I've said, he physically overpowered Despero(whom even as a jobber is beyond class 100) and the deep six(a group of class 100's that only someone like Orion has been able to defeat physically). He might not have"adimantium"level durability be he's endured a attack that KO'ed Orion....the same Orion who has previously stalemated a enraged sun-amp supes and stood to blows from a FP DS.
As for speed, I'm not claiming he will be untouchable to Cyber. All I said was that in the deep ocean he can move invisibly fast and while on the surface his mobolity isn't nearly as taxed. He has good enough MA to compete blindfolded agaisnt a opponent of deathstrokes MA ability and he has been described as"swiftness itself"....which is understandable considering his battle agaisnt Thanotos where he completly slip away from every blow thrown at him. In this fight, even h2h I don't cyber taking a single round....not that I underestimate him but AM is far to beastly to convince me Cyber will do anything a generic 100 class has yet to do agaisnt AM.