Originally posted by KingD19
Iron Man is currently class 100, has been for some time.
And AM is supposed to be Class 60, but that's false because he's done things like over power Despero(Who wailed on Superman), held up a huge chunk of city block, done things that put him well past the Class 100 mark.
Originally posted by Makky
I don't think you need to be at supes strength level to KO cyber personally.
Of course if you're talking about the whole punch to the face. Sure, He may be able to do that, but honestly, Cyber's got better feats against better malee fighters without taking shots to the face and his natural durability is strong enough to whether C100 blows anyways.
Aquaman's strength is negatable against Cyber's armor. When it comes to hitting him in the face. Once again, you're argument bids us to consider it more likely for Aquaman to land a straight and deabilitating shot in a small area against a better fighter with high natural durability before even being grazed with a scratch. In other words nonsense.
Originally posted by Makky😂
While he might not hit as hard as clark he's comparable in strength regardless
Yeah, no he's not.
Originally posted by Makky
hence why he was referenced as being in the same weight class.
Originally posted by Makky
As I've said, he physically overpowered Despero(whom even as a jobber is beyond class 100) and the deep six(a group of class 100's that only someone like Orion has been able to defeat physically). He might not have"adimantium"level durability be he's endured a attack that KO'ed Orion....the same Orion who has previously stalemated a enraged sun-amp supes and stood to blows from a FP DS.
AAAANNNNND? He doesn't have better durability he doesn't have strength enough to rend Adamantium. You're endless circular rantings don't change those facts.
It's not like Aquaman beat Despero in a consest of Strength.. he punched him a couple of times, hoo ha! Wolverine's knocked silly class 70's with stopping power alone too only he didn't need a gang of sharks to back him up.... Cyber's ten times his better.
I mean, honestly you think for one second that I can't pull out a MASSIVE amount of impressive ABC logic based off the LONE fact that Cyber>Wolverine? Like.... the entire Wolverine Respect Thread for instance?
Seriously. ABC Logic aside, he's strong and durable. Ok, fair enough.... BUT; He's not strong enough to rend through Adamantium and not durable enough to whether Adamantium blades. One gutting, one cut, one scratch... that's all Cyber needs to end this fight. Aquaman needs a lucky punch against a superior fighter in a small area... good luck to him. 😬
Originally posted by MakkyAnd I'm saying that when it comes to speed he doesn't have one on land feat that makes him this quicksilver you're making him out to be. Most of/all off? his feats are comparable, matched and outstripped by every high grade street level. 😐 At least from what I've seen. But I honestly don't read much Aquaman so I gave you an open to prove me wrong.
As for speed, I'm not claiming he will be untouchable to Cyber. All I said was that in the deep ocean he can move invisibly fast and while on the surface his mobolity isn't nearly as taxed. He has good enough MA to compete blindfolded agaisnt a opponent of deathstrokes MA ability and he has been described as"swiftness itself"....which is understandable considering his battle agaisnt Thanotos where he completly slip away from every blow thrown at him. In this fight, even h2h I don't cyber taking a single round....not that I underestimate him but AM is far to beastly to convince me Cyber will do anything a generic 100 class has yet to do agaisnt AM.
Cyber isn't a generic class 100.. that's the problem you seem to be having....
Fighting Deathstroke, woopdido. Deathstroke isn't top MA level. The only reason he beats other MA's is due to his sheer metahuman physicality which compounds his mediocre skill level. Take that away from him and he's been handled by the likes of Azrael and random human's with bound wrists. Even WITH that advantage he's put into defensive battles by the likes of Batman and Nightwing. And it's not like Aquaman beat Deathstroke is it? It's not like he matched his martial skill either. He was simply durable enough to whether Deathstroke's strikes and grab him on the rebound. Hardly the most impressive feat in the world. Where as Cyber stomps on Wolverine who IS one of Marvel's top MA's period, and does so quite casually.
Now you keep comparing Cyber to generic class 100's which is insane... He's a better fighter, with far more vast experience, impenetrable hyde, and a one shot win weapon which will secure victory regardless of how deep, wide, or effective the actual blow is. You say you aren't underestimating Cyber? You sure have me fooled.