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Originally posted by Kento
The point was stuff happens and stuff is said that don't always agree with something else that has happened. You don't buy what people say about Superman if it's makes him seem stronger or faster yet you seem to buy what people say that make him look weaker than what has been shown.

He was hurt badly sure..but he had enough time to take his own speed from Amazo then walk away and faint. That should have been enough time to take away all of his ability to move if he really wanted to save the JLA.

Another question, if a scan was put up saying that goku goes under the speed of sound how would you take it and what would you say about it. I think that you would agree with it because its not a character that youre siding with.

I don't know I don't keep up with american comics but hasn't he done it recently after his return and Bart's death? Along with stopping bullets in mid-air by taking their speed?

Except Superman has feats that put him at or above light speed so no it wouldn't work. And like I said you take the words of people that make him look weaker that what he has actually shown but somebody says something that he's not shown you won't take it and call it hyperbole. That's why we go by feats not what people say. Superman has moved ftl so yea..saying he can't won't prove anything.

Originally posted by Kento
I don't know I don't keep up with american comics but hasn't he done it recently after his return and Bart's death? Along with stopping bullets in mid-air by taking their speed?

Except Superman has feats that put him at or above light speed so no it wouldn't work. And like I said you take the words of people that make him look weaker that what he has actually shown but somebody says something that he's not shown you won't take it and call it hyperbole. That's why we go by feats not what people say. Superman has moved ftl so yea..saying he can't won't prove anything.

What if superman admitted this himself that he cant go the speed of light, would that help.

Would it help if Superman himself admits to being able to destroy planets with a punch?

Originally posted by Kento
Would it help if Superman himself admits to being able to destroy planets with a punch?

You need to ask yourself that question because if you believe that statement then you should believe him saying that he cant go the speed of light.

I dont think that he can do either.

The reverse works for you since you seem to always take what is said if it makes him look weaker than what he's shown but nothing else.

But that's really neither here or there. You'll keep believing what you want anyway about Superman and Gokou's speed despite what is actually shown.

Originally posted by Kento
The reverse works for you since you seem to always take what is said if it makes him look weaker than what he's shown but nothing else.

But that's really neither here or there. You'll keep believing what you want anyway about Superman and Gokou's speed despite what is actually shown.

I guess we're both guilty then

Nah ah

Originally posted by carver9
I guess we're both guilty then

Originally posted by carver9
What if superman admitted this himself that he cant go the speed of light, would that help.

Are you talking about that one scan from almost 20 years ago before he lost his mental blocks and became much more powerful?

Posting that will prove about as much as me posting this:

And saying that Goku is slower than a motorbike.

It's old, it's outdated, and in no way does it represent his current capabilities.

Superman has moved and fought at beyond lightspeed multiple times.

Unless you're going to deny that speed = distance/time, then you have absolutely no case whatsoever.

Originally posted by Kento
Except I've never said I believe his statement about being able to destroy planets with a punch. And he's got feats that put him faster than light. While you...just assume Gokou is ftl even though he's never shown it and it's contradicted by the end of the series, and throught any tournament.

Again, there was no feats presented stating that superman can fight the speed of light or even close. Endless mike is showing some scans of him fighting in one area but end up in arizona. There was no time given to even make me think that they reach arizona instantly, it just said arizona.

A lot of people tend to mix flight speed up with combat speed when its totally different. Stop posting things up of him flying and show some combat speed that is even remotely close to what dbz characters can do. I cant wait to get home so that I can post supermans bio, I wonder what excuse you're going to make then.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Are you talking about that one scan from almost 20 years ago before he lost his mental blocks and became much more powerful?

Posting that will prove about as much as me posting this:

And saying that Goku is slower than a motorbike.

It's old, it's outdated, and in no way does it represent his current capabilities.

Superman has moved and fought at beyond lightspeed multiple times.

Unless you're going to deny that speed = distance/time, then you have absolutely no case whatsoever.

Using science like you always tend to do, nobody should be able to fight beyond light speed without time traveling.

Read what wonder woman say, cover a few thousand miles in some minutes. LOL at the speed of light.
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First of all, strawman. I posted that one scan to respond to your challenge of asking me to show him fighting above sound speed. Fighting across all those places in the world in the time it took to just say those sentences is way above sound speed. Fighting Wonder Woman to the sun and back is the FTL fight I posted.

Second of all, your response to my last post had nothing to do with it. Furthermore, learn the meaning of suspension of disbelief. If we observe a fictional entity doing something that defies physics, we accept that this is possible in that given fictional continuity. Physics is only assumed to apply when there is nothing that would directly contradict the particular law of physics you're trying to apply in that instant.

Finally, AMAZO is full of PIS. He has to be, or else he could solo all of the heroes with his broken powers.

Superman has been directly observed moving and fighting faster than light. In Countdown he moved from Vega (some 26 light-years away) to earth in a few minutes. In Infinite Crisis he flew from earth to Rao (which was in the Andromeda galaxy) in a few hours. That's millions of times the speed of light. In the Lex 2000 special, he flew from Earth to Saturn in 4 minutes (light takes 19, assuming the optimum configuration of planetary orbits for earth and Saturn to be as close as possible). He flew to Kyle Rayner's position in another star system in a few minutes. He fought Darkseid to the sun in the time it took them to say a few sentences. He escaped a black hole by flying faster than light. I can go on and on here.

Sun and back in less than a minute:

http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scan0004lp5.jpg

Here's a page that directly states he's moving at the speed of light:

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4420/movinglightaf4.jpg

Flies to the sun so fast that another character can't even react:

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii236/Syms_Photos/pic019.jpg

Here we see him tracing signals at lightspeed:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Superman/supermansenses1.jpg

That's lightspeed reactions, and everyone knows "combat speed" is just travel speed + reaction speed.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
First of all, strawman. I posted that one scan to respond to your challenge of asking me to show him fighting above sound speed. Fighting across all those places in the world in the time it took to just say those sentences is way above sound speed. Fighting Wonder Woman to the sun and back is the FTL fight I posted.

Second of all, your response to my last post had nothing to do with it. Furthermore, learn the meaning of suspension of disbelief. If we observe a fictional entity doing something that defies physics, we accept that this is possible in that given fictional continuity. Physics is only assumed to apply when there is nothing that would directly contradict the particular law of physics you're trying to apply in that instant.

Finally, AMAZO is full of PIS. He has to be, or else he could solo all of the heroes with his broken powers.

Superman has been directly observed moving and fighting faster than light. In Countdown he moved from Vega (some 26 light-years away) to earth in a few minutes. In Infinite Crisis he flew from earth to Rao (which was in the Andromeda galaxy) in a few hours. That's millions of times the speed of light. In the Lex 2000 special, he flew from Earth to Saturn in 4 minutes (light takes 19, assuming the optimum configuration of planetary orbits for earth and Saturn to be as close as possible). He flew to Kyle Rayner's position in another star system in a few minutes. He fought Darkseid to the sun in the time it took them to say a few sentences. He escaped a black hole by flying faster than light. I can go on and on here.

Lol at your excuses and lier didnt you say that superman was broken out of max lord mind control before getting his throat slice. Show me where you see this.

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The slice across the throat did it. Like I said, you contradict and add on to a lot of sh**. I cant believe a thing you say. You take comic out of content and put in what you want. I'll be back to also prove that you didnt know what the hell you were talking about when you brought up superman vs zod. You can clearly see wonder woman asking max lord to release superman.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/4420/movinglightaf4.jpg

It was never stated that he was moving the speed of light in this scan, he was asked about TRYING to go the speed of light. The rest are not even worth mentioning since all of it is space flight with zero gravity.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
First of all, strawman. I posted that one scan to respond to your challenge of asking me to show him fighting above sound speed. Fighting across all those places in the world in the time it took to just say those sentences is way above sound speed. Fighting Wonder Woman to the sun and back is the FTL fight I posted.

Second of all, your response to my last post had nothing to do with it. Furthermore, learn the meaning of suspension of disbelief. If we observe a fictional entity doing something that defies physics, we accept that this is possible in that given fictional continuity. Physics is only assumed to apply when there is nothing that would directly contradict the particular law of physics you're trying to apply in that instant.

Finally, AMAZO is full of PIS. He has to be, or else he could solo all of the heroes with his broken powers.

Superman has been directly observed moving and fighting faster than light. In Countdown he moved from Vega (some 26 light-years away) to earth in a few minutes. In Infinite Crisis he flew from earth to Rao (which was in the Andromeda galaxy) in a few hours. That's millions of times the speed of light. In the Lex 2000 special, he flew from Earth to Saturn in 4 minutes (light takes 19, assuming the optimum configuration of planetary orbits for earth and Saturn to be as close as possible). He flew to Kyle Rayner's position in another star system in a few minutes. He fought Darkseid to the sun in the time it took them to say a few sentences. He escaped a black hole by flying faster than light. I can go on and on here.

Why is everything that is posted regarding superman that you dont agree with is pis. Superman fighting nothing but bricks and getting owned is pis and this has happened his entire career. Wonderwoman commenting on superman speed is pis. Black canary scream almost koing superman is pis. Deathstroke encounter with superman is pis. Batman stalemating superman is pis. Wow, youre ridiculous. How can you debate with someone that throws everything off as pis.

By the way, do you know who rogue is from the xmen, her top speed of well below the speed of sound. Guess what, she get puched by binary into space and collapse the building but makes it back in time before the debris from the roof fall and before binary even got the chance to start a sentence. Again, rogue top speed is below the speed of sound. Space flight is amazing.

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Ya'll niggas should have a battlezone.