IG Thanos vs Super Spectre from COIE

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OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Astner
Actually it is relevant to the topic because Spectre had the power to see what his master (the Presence) was unable to see when he fought the Anti-monitor.

I think it's more reasonable to say that his "master" had never dreamt up those things that Spectre witnessed, rather than being unable to. I mean, just because you perceive a shape that I've never even dreamt of before, doesn't preclude me from being able to draw the shape. At the same time, does the perception of those spectacles have any bearing on how powerful this version of the Spectre was or how well he could cope in a fight of cosmic proportions?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

You missed the point, if you are all-knowing there are no patters that you are unaware of.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Astner
Actually it is relevant to the topic because Spectre had the power to see what his master (the Presence) was unable to see when he fought the Anti-monitor.


The Spectre's boss at the time was the Voice/Word. Not the presence.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Ya'll should probably take this Yahweh = Presence discussion elsewhere. Maybe a Yahweh vs. Presence thread. The discussion looks interesting, but is ultimately completely off-topic. [/endactinglikeamod]

It is he who deviated the thread into the 'DC's God is not supreme', despite already being proven wrong here so instead of pursuing this thread derail, I decided to just report his trolling and baiting 🙂

Originally posted by fangirl101
The Spectre's boss at the time was the Voice/Word. Not the presence.

Don't feed him. Seriously.

OneDumbG0 Find Your Own Fire

Originally posted by Astner
You missed the point, if you are all-knowing there are no patters that you are unaware of.
So the only point is that you're trying to discuss Yahweh/Presence in a thread he is not a part of? K. Like I said, take it somewhere else. You're allowed to create new threads for that very purpose you know.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

Someone please give me a valid explanation of how the amped Spectre would be able to beat/KO/kill an IG wielding Thanos?

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Enyalus
Someone please give me a valid explanation of how the amped Spectre would be able to beat/KO/kill an IG wielding Thanos?

A multiversal being simply obliterates a universal one. Thanos with the IG was universal.

KK the Great Junior Member
Originally posted by fangirl101
A multiversal being simply obliterates a universal one.

There's nothing inherently true about that statement.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!

Originally posted by KK the Great
The "omniversal > multiversal > universal" truism often taken for granted in these battle of omnipotents isn't particularly sound. The terms themselves don't deal in scale so much as scope. A character can have influence in every universe, but it doesn't preclude him from being simply overpowered by a being with absolute power in a single universe.

If I have the power to mind-control a single butterfly in every universe simultaneously, then by definition my power is omniversal. I'd still get my teeth kicked in by Spider-Man, let alone an Infinity Gauntlet wielder.

I concur...

Spectre is one being, in a single universe doing battle with Thanos. Thanos, in that given universe has total control over Space, Time, Power, Soul, Mind, and Reality. Spectre cannot win.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by fangirl101
The Spectre's boss at the time was the Voice/Word. Not the presence.

You are wrong. The boss of the Spectre was the Presence. The word is simply an aspect through which the Presence communicates, it's not an entity by itself. It's a part of the Presence.

Originally posted by fangirl101
A multiversal being simply obliterates a universal one. Thanos with the IG was universal.

Originally posted by Mr Master

"What do you mean NOTHING belongs here? ... This whole Reality is wrong,

"These Two Gems (Time-Reality) must be reunited,
otherwise ALL REALITIES, including this one, will be destroyed,
I have to use them to CREATE a New and stronger Reality,
one whose Fabric isn't unravelling as this one is"


How unfortunate.

Utrigita Senior Member
Originally posted by fangirl101
A multiversal being simply obliterates a universal one. Thanos with the IG was universal.

Ore was he...

http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig8ca4.jpg

Remember that LT left Thanos alone because he only desired "one" reality. (which happened to be the 616 but nevermind)

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Utrigita
Ore was he...

http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig8ca4.jpg

Remember that LT left Thanos alone because he only desired "one" reality. (which happened to be the 616 but nevermind)


Thanos Declared himself supreme of that and all universes. we know that isn't true because the LT is supreme over all multiverses. Thanos wasn't supreme. He was just boasting in his new found glory.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Astner
You are wrong. The boss of the Spectre was the Presence. The word is simply an aspect through which the Presence communicates, it's not an entity by itself. It's a part of the Presence.

How unfortunate.


Um, The Spectre is also an aspect of The Presence. He's God's hand of wrath/vengeance. So the Word ( an aspect of God) talks to his hand(another aspect of God). Neither are God himself. Oh and your scan means jack to me. saying What Might happen is didly to what actually did happen.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!
Originally posted by fangirl101
Thanos Declared himself supreme of that and all universes. we know that isn't true because the LT is supreme over all multiverses. Thanos wasn't supreme. He was just boasting in his new found glory.

LT has more control. But control doesn't equal power. It just means his powerset is broader. He simply stopped the gems from working in conjunction with one another. There's no evidence to suggest that had he not done such a thing, an M-body LT would not = or < Thanos.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by Enyalus
LT has more control. But control doesn't equal power. It just means his powerset is broader. He simply stopped the gems from working in conjunction with one another. There's no evidence to suggest that had he not done such a thing, an M-body LT would not = or < Thanos.

OMG. The Thanos wanking is REDICULOUS. Thanos had done NOTHING multiversal with the IG. NOTHING. Even when Warlock had the IG and he destroyed the concepts m-bodies, the LT waved his hand with EASE and recreated what Warlock did in anger and effort.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Utrigita
Ore was he...

http://img233.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ig8ca4.jpg

Remember that LT left Thanos alone because he only desired "one" reality. (which happened to be the 616 but nevermind)

an IG wielder has never preformed a truly multiversal feat.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by Galan007
an IG wielder has never preformed a truly multiversal feat.

Magus merged universes. Magus negated the effect of the ultimate nullifier.

KK the Great Junior Member
Originally posted by Enyalus
LT has more control. But control doesn't equal power. It just means his powerset is broader.

I don't know if I would call it control, exactly, or that his powerset is broader.

I think the best way to put it is that he has greater authority.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by Astner
Magus created and merged universes.
that is not a true multiversal feat. that is simply a multi-universal feat. nothing more.

Enyalus MALE DOMINANCE!!!
Originally posted by fangirl101
OMG. The Thanos wanking is REDICULOUS. Thanos had done NOTHING multiversal with the IG. NOTHING. Even when Warlock had the IG and he destroyed the concepts m-bodies, the LT waved his hand with EASE and recreated what Warlock did in anger and effort.

*shrugs* I wasn't actually saying that Thanos with the IG was in fact superior to the LT.

I just figured if you could argue that the JLA would beat Dark Phoenix because of two GLs and Zatanna, I might humor you as well. 😉