Yoda runs the Guantlet against Sith Lords

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Given his studies of the old Sith Holocrons and his likely studies with the Falanassi, it's likely Yoda can

Lightsnake I am nip picking here. When it is said on this forum that Revan mostly likely new certain techniques that other people did who went to Malachor V I constantly hear we don't know.

So I am bring that logic over here. Do we have any factual proof that Yoda could actually defend? Also has a Jedi ever defended against a force drain?

Your statement makes sense to me but I would like to hear a response to the above.

Thx

One thing I have noted is that Yoda is said to win because he is equal to Sidious. As we all know being powerful does not dictate a win. Enyalus to me brought good points. I am not saying that Yoda could not win but he could definitely lose to some of the Sith mention.

We really do not know how much more powerful Sidious is then the Sith mention. I wouldn’t say by much. Sidious does not have Bane’s armor or Kun’s amulet nor Malak’s jedi resource. If Dooku had Bane’s armor or Kun’s amulet Yoda may not have been able to defeat him.

Yoda would definitely win against Sion.

Yoda vs Kreia, I give to Yoda due to his speed and agility should allow him to defend against the three sabers and get close to Kreia. However I do not know if Yoda can defend against a force drain.

Yoda vs Malak, I give to Yoda, if Revan could do so I sure Yoda could.

Yoda vs Exar Kun, I really do not know. If Kun uses the amulet he could win. Also if Kun as a spirit was able to sunder NJO Luke's spirit from his body, leaving Luke in a lifeless state Yoda also may not know defenses for such an attack.

Yoda vs Bane – May someone can clarify for me, what could Yoda do to actually defeat Bane?

Another terribly ordered Gauntlet.

Yoda vs Kreia (location Malachor V)

Yoda vs Star Forge empowered Malak (takes place on the Star Forge where Malak fought Revan)

Yoda vs Exar Kun (takes place on Onderon)

Yoda vs Bane (takes place on Korriban)

Yoda vs Sion (location Malachor V)

Gets owned at round 1.

Originally posted by Taven
Another terribly ordered Gauntlet.

[b]Yoda vs Kreia (location Malachor V)

Yoda vs Star Forge empowered Malak (takes place on the Star Forge where Malak fought Revan)

Yoda vs Exar Kun (takes place on Onderon)

Yoda vs Bane (takes place on Korriban)

Yoda vs Sion (location Malachor V)

Gets owned at round 1. [/B]

You are very entertaining. I wonder if you are serious?

Yes. Yoda's the most overrated punk here. As the movies establish, he's a street level combatant with a very average command of the Force, and any quote that might place him or any one of his peers as the greatest there had ever been has been dismantled time and again.

No offence by the way, keep the gauntlets coming.

Originally posted by Taven
No offence by the way, keep the gauntlets coming.

None taken. As I stated before power does not dictate a win.

Even though I highly disagree with the order of your list could you please explain why or how Kreia would defeat Yoda.

Besides the force drain Kreia does not really have anything that would defeat Yoda that she has shown. She has never defeated a Jedi or sith of Yoda's status.

Because of Yoda's size and height I do not see the multiple sabers as an issue for Yoda.

That she was capable of effortlessly dominating three respected Jedi Masters at once, and is having her powers boosted by an entire planet steeped in the dark side, I don't see how Yoda can compete. I mean, what has he truly displayed? Basic telekinesis? He hasn't truly displayed anything that would put him on level with someone like Traya under normal conditions, let alone when her powers are being boosted to the max.

Exar Kun, in the meantime, has shown himself capable of effortlessly dominating the minds of thousands of beings at once, Star Forge Malak was being empowered by a star as well as the Force power of an entire race, and was capable of competing with someone as powerful as Revan (who the amazingly powerful Kraya, with her peers consisting of planet destroyers and immortals, was in absolute awe of) in combat (as evident by it being described as epic). Sion has shown himself capable of using the Force to cheat death, something completely unprecedented, and Bane can use the Force on the subatomic level, possesses the orbalisk armour, and has shown himself capable of handling the Force on a planetary level.

Originally posted by Taven
Exar Kun, in the meantime, has shown himself capable of effortlessly dominating the minds of thousands of beings at once, Star Forge Malak was being empowered by a star as well as the Force power of an entire race, and was capable of competing with someone as powerful as Revan (who the amazingly powerful Kraya, with her peers consisting of planet destroyers and immortals, was in absolute awe of) in combat (as evident by it being described as epic). Sion has shown himself capable of using the Force to cheat death, something completely unprecedented, and Bane can use the Force on the subatomic level, possesses the orbalisk armour, and has shown himself capable of handling the Force on a planetary level.

The three Jedi that Kreia killed were weak. She herself admits this before killing them. Still was impressive but they are weak in comparison to Yoda.

Sion is no match for Yoda, why you are even arguing this I do not know. Besides keeping his body together, Sion has not shown any impressive force powers. Yoda would force school him and separate his body with the force. Yoda would not even need to break his will.

As for Malak we know Revan defeated Malak as a light user. That would mean his offensive attacks had to be limited in comparison to his dark side attacks. Since we know Yoda can block force lighting with his hands what attack will Malak use to take out Yoda? This would most like go down to a saber battle as it did with Revan. Outcome, Yoda the victor!

I already gave my statements for Bane and Exar Kun which (besides Kreia force drain) are the only two who have a chance at defeating Yoda.

What has Yoda done? Yoda has never been defeated by Jedi, dark Jedi or Sith. Yoda has shown himself to be able to duel in saber combat with the best and block any force attacks sent his way. All this when he wasn’t even in his prime. Yoda in his prime I believe would spank Sidious.

Originally posted by Taven
Exar Kun, in the meantime, has shown himself capable of effortlessly dominating the minds of thousands of beings at once,

and Bane can use the Force on the subatomic level, possesses the orbalisk armour, and has shown himself capable of handling the Force on a planetary level.

Have we told you you're an idiot and a liar lately, fanbrat?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Except...
Palpatine>Bane by numerous sources
Yoda=Palpatine
therefore
Yoda>Bane
And has the better feats and defensive powers anyways.

Hey, btw. 😎

Originally posted by Faunus
That logic is trash and you know it.

Hey, btw. 😎

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Hey, back! How's all been, Faunus? Ever managed to get AIM?

Originally posted by Faunus
Nah, and I doubt I will for a while. My computer got infected with some shitty fake antivirus thing that I tried to download to deal with the spyware sent to me presumably via e-mail and such, so I have to use a ridiculous slow sub to do everything. It has about fifteen minutes of battery life and the charger overheats like no other, so I come here pretty much as a last resort for online entertainment. I swear, KMC never gets boring.

If you're looking for something good for antivirus and spyware, btw, I recommend AVG.

That was the first thing I downloaded, like I told you in PM. A Dell service rep suggested it, and it was okay for a while, but then I just got flooded by this crap. I rarely download anything as it is save for e-mail files, so I was pretty much blindsided.

Who came up with spyware, anyway? Douchebags...

May there be a special place in hell for them, I have to concur.
And strange that you got flooded with all that...downloaded anything that got you all of it?

Also, was wondering if you'd like to join in on the 'Team sent against Palpatine vs. Bane and Zannah' thread? Curious to your opinion there.

I don't even really know what you two are arguing about over there. Bane can achieve the extraordinary speeds he demonstrated in PoD (obviously), but it's clear that he didn't against the Jedi. Chalk it up to PIS and writer's inconsistency.

Well, it's actually a bit amusing. Nebaris loves chalking up any speed against the side he argues against as nothing more than hyperbole.Ergo, it's nice to turn it back, considering at his best state, when he's every reason to go as fast as possible, he's visible to even Johun Othone.

I think there are two reasons for Bane not actively showing the speeds in RoT that he does in PoD. The first:

Orbalisks cause extreme pain to their host. Pain, obviously, makes it difficult to think clearly (numerous evidence of this as seen by Bane's many rage-induced rants after being shown as level-headed and agreeable in PoD). That would make it harder for one to concentrate, channel all that rage into speed as he did in PoD, and unleash it.

Secondly, he didn't need it. He doesn't even bother blocking many of the strikes that the Jedi were attacking him with on Tython. If he felt he was in more danger, who knows?