Yoda runs the Guantlet against Sith Lords

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Originally posted by Enyalus
I think there are two reasons for Bane not actively showing the speeds in RoT that he does in PoD. The first:

Orbalisks cause extreme pain to their host. Pain, obviously, makes it difficult to think clearly (numerous evidence of this as seen by Bane's many rage-induced rants after being shown as level-headed and agreeable in PoD). That would make it harder for one to concentrate, channel all that rage into speed as he did in PoD, and unleash it.


Pain is only a help for the Sith. It'd fuel him, if anything. And they pump in adrenaline, too

Secondly, he didn't need it. He doesn't even bother blocking many of the strikes that the Jedi were attacking him with on Tython. If he felt he was in more danger, who knows?

This is a bit wrong. For starters: He didn't need to block, due to orbalisks. He was still trying to kill them. And he was in danger when they were all together at him to strike his head.
As I pointed out in the other topic, Bane clearly tries to end the fight as quick as possible

But when they had converged on him trying to strike his head, he didn't have any free room to use that speed. 😛

He doesn't need that much room to back up and swing his arm...he hardly moved much when he beat Sirak

What's been noted as far as Yoda's speed capabilities? Obviously he was keeping up with Sidious in RoTS at 800+ years old...

Little known fact: Yoda has an internal Vaapad simulator chip. That's why he kept up with Sidious at such an advanced age. That's also why he can throw back Force Lightning.

Prove me wrong.

lol

As far as the claims that Yoda is a "street-level combatant" with an "average command of the Force", the omniscient narrator of Revenge of the Sith declared Yoda to be "the most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known." While that means jack to other Sith (though it implies he's on par with their strongest), he's more powerful than any other Jedi in history.

Exactly. To assume or imply otherwise would be ludicrous. How could the Jedi Order's Grandmaster be no better than average?

Was "The Darkness" referring to Sidious or to the Dark Side? That always seemed a little vague to me.

The darkside. Yoda was around long before Sidious, and was already an adversary of the "darkness."

While that means jack to other Sith (though it implies he's on par with their strongest)

This re-opened the question for me. I must have misunderstood, because Yoda is pretty boss.

Originally posted by Jbill311
Was "The Darkness" referring to Sidious or to the Dark Side? That always seemed a little vague to me.

The quote essentially means that Yoda is the most powerful lightsider that has come into being at the point. As Darth Subjekt already said the darkness is referring to the darkside.

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
The darkside. Yoda was around long before Sidious, and was already an adversary of the "darkness."

Yes, because, you know, he was fighting high tier darksiders long before Sidious was around, given the fact that he's only 800 or so at that point and they thought the Sith had been extinct for 1,000 years. 😛

Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Exactly. To assume or imply otherwise would be ludicrous. How could the Jedi Order's Grandmaster be no better than average?

Nebaris was getting off on one of his anti-movie tangents. Next thing you know, Darth Bane and friends can take on the Empire.

Darth Bane & Darth Nihilus at peak > Galactic Empire.

(Please don't make a serious reply to that...)

Originally posted by Enyalus
Darth Bane & Darth Nihilus at peak > Galatic Empire.

(Please don't make a serious reply to that...)

I'm sure they are. I'll agree one hundred percent. Mainly because I've never heard of a Galatic Empire.

The Galactic Empire, on the other hand...

*shifty eyes* I don't know what you're talking about.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes, because, you know, he was fighting high tier darksiders long before Sidious was around, given the fact that he's only 800 or so at that point and they thought the Sith had been extinct for 1,000 years. 😛
Touche, however there had to have been dark Jedi or something that used the dark side, otherwise, they'd all be really bored! lol.

On a side note, Escape, you know fully well that Bane and Nihilus can manipulate the Empire to school all their ships together in one spot... and then smash them all with a moon while simultaneously draining all their life force!!!

ok darth yoda 4tw

Yoda has a very good chance except for one thing that has always made me kind of hesitant when arguing that anyone of the triumvirate could be taken out by anyone other then the exile.

"There are techniques in the force for which their is no defense"--Kreia

Unless you are rather queer, you will acknowledge that if Yoda faces sion, he will have to convince him to die somehow. The argument that Sion can't survive in pieces is ludicrous. He is walking around in pieces. Every bone in his body has been shattered, and when the exile faced him with a saber, he survived until being convinced to die. thus, yoda would have to defend until he found some way to disintegrate/vaporize sion.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Yoda has a very good chance except for one thing that has always made me kind of hesitant when arguing that anyone of the triumvirate could be taken out by anyone other then the exile.

"There are techniques in the force for which their is no defense"--Kreia

Unless you are rather queer, you will acknowledge that if Yoda faces sion, he will have to convince him to die somehow. The argument that Sion can't survive in pieces is ludicrous. He is walking around in pieces. Every bone in his body has been shattered, and when the exile faced him with a saber, he survived until being convinced to die. thus, yoda would have to defend until he found some way to disintegrate/vaporize sion.

When you're in pieces you pose little threat.

And an oft-overlooked situation when dealing with Sion is that, even if though he can regenerate and hold himself together, he can't duplicate living tissue once he's been reduced to ash (pure carbon). A lightsaber's intense energy output would disintegrate Sion's body. Even if Yoda didn't have time to eradicate his body, eventually Sion will run out of organic material to reproduce cells with, as healing would drain the body's resources. And unless someone can state somewhere that the Force can create matter like it's a Harry Potter novel, then Sion's done for.