Yoda runs the Guantlet against Sith Lords

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Knowledge wise, it'd be a bit tough to discern, given they're both amazingly old Jedi masters who devoted so much to study...though Yoda made it a point to do some traveling to study with a good deal of Force Sensitive groups.

As it goes, though, I can't see Kun killing Yoda with a wave of a hand. Any thoughts on that yourself?

I will say that Kun could easily knock him out ala Sidious, should he get the chance, but it's unlikely that they'll stand there exchanging banter before Yoda gets to demonstrate how shitty his reflexes are.

Originally posted by Faunus
Yoda had a life, though. Odan literally studied for a thousand years. He's like an ancient, alien version of my sister.
No, definitely not. OT Yoda, maybe, since he's about to die anyway, as was Odan, but certainly not the RotS incarnation.

I will say that Kun could easily knock him out ala Sidious, should he get the chance, but it's unlikely that they'll stand there exchanging banter before Yoda gets to demonstrate how shitty his reflexes are.

Well, say they're prepared for a fight

I still don't see how Kun has a chance against Yoda. Kun, at best, has Force abilities almost but not equal to Sidious. And Yoda was able to stalemate Sidious there.

As for saber abilities, does anyone really want to argue that Kun can, speedwise, keep up with Yoda? Really?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Totally and utterly irrelevant. This is not Kun 'if he had time to get there,' it's Kun as he was.

That is what I said.

Originally posted by Lightsnake

Alright, let's view Kun's knowledge base: Sadow's knowledge
Let's look at Palpatine's: Bane's knowledge.
Bane's knowledge: All of revan's knowledge, all of Belia Darzu's, all of Freedon Nadd.
Freedon Nadd's teacher: A living, breathing Sadow. Who had access to all of what Kun did for a longer period of time? Nadd. Who had access to even further sources later? Nadd.

Who do you think has the better knowledge base here?

Never denied Sidious having more knowledge or even debated the topic.

Now can you address anything I did mention?

Originally posted by Enyalus
As for saber abilities, does anyone really want to argue that Kun can, speedwise, keep up with Yoda? Really?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Well, say they're prepared for a fight.

That said, I see Yoda getting the better of Kun through his ridiculous speed and pulling through victorious more often than not, although not without a great deal of difficulty, depending on how things go.

Originally posted by Kotor3
That is what I said.

Never denied Sidious having more knowledge or even debated the topic.

Now can you address anything I did mention?

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Yoda has a very good chance except for one thing that has always made me kind of hesitant when arguing that anyone of the triumvirate could be taken out by anyone other then the exile.

"There are techniques in the force for which their is no defense"--Kreia

Unless you are rather queer, you will acknowledge that if Yoda faces sion, he will have to convince him to die somehow. The argument that Sion can't survive in pieces is ludicrous. He is walking around in pieces. Every bone in his body has been shattered, and when the exile faced him with a saber, he survived until being convinced to die. thus, yoda would have to defend until he found some way to disintegrate/vaporize sion.

As pointed out earlier, you don't have to kill Sion to defeat him. That or, if he knows Sever Force, there goes Sion's chance

Originally posted by Lightsnake
As pointed out earlier, you don't have to kill Sion to defeat him. That or, if he knows Sever Force, there goes Sion's chance

Yes, considering it seems pretty damn basic for Master Tholme to do it?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yes, considering it seems pretty damn basic for Master Tholme to do it?

1. Tholme was able to do it while plummeting to a lake of magma.
2. It was done pretty lightly
3. It's never been done in a combat situation period...oh, wait, no, Kyle Katarn and Jerec, forgot
4. Tholme is one of the more skilled and powerful Jedi Masters maybe?
5. Again, considering a few PT underdogs know Sever Force and would have been preferable for Palpatine? Yes, then let's kill the old man who still wields galactic power and turn to the Dark Side in the process! BRILLIANT!

Originally posted by Lightsnake
It was essentially a 'But Kun never hit his potential./

Then why argue Kun is somehow gonna pull out momentous techniques to beat Yoda? We know in the force Yoda already has the edge.

I wanted to make things interesting. Someone is gotta make an agrument for the Sith. Anyway someone on this thread answered your question about what techniques Kun could use.

Me. 😐

Yes, they did, Kotor3 However, it stands to reason:
A. Yoda's expertise in Sith technique could lead to defense
B. Kun is too arrogant to even try
C. Yoda's strength in the force means he an more than fight back.

So, it's anything close to a guaranteed win

*nothing

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Yes, they did, Kotor3 However, it stands to reason:
A. Yoda's expertise in Sith technique could lead to defense
B. Kun is too arrogant to even try
C. Yoda's strength in the force means he an more than fight back.

So, it's anything close to a guaranteed win

True I can agree with your statements above. Who do you think would do better against Yoda, Kun or Bane?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
1. Tholme was able to do it while plummeting to a lake of magma.
2. It was done pretty lightly
3. It's never been done in a combat situation period...oh, wait, no, Kyle Katarn and Jerec, forgot
4. Tholme is one of the more skilled and powerful Jedi Masters maybe?
5. Again, considering a few PT underdogs know Sever Force and would have been preferable for Palpatine? Yes, then let's kill the old man who still wields galactic power and turn to the Dark Side in the process! BRILLIANT!

Originally posted by Kotor3
True I can agree with your statements above. Who do you think would do better against Yoda, Kun or Bane?

In description, Bane's Force Lightning seems more akin to Sidious' Lightning than anyone elses. Its massively powerful, indicating that he's incredibly strong in the Dark Side of the Force.

In sabers, yes Kun is a great duelist, but so is Bane. I'd give Bane the edge, but even if it is even the orbalisks make Bane superior in that department.

So with Bane's edge in the Force and Sabers, he should be a stronger opponent for Yoda than Kun.

Ah, but Kun has the amulets. While it's debatable that Yoda could handle RoT Bane's lightning, there's no way in hell he can stop those Force-blasts.