Wow, a music/guitar-war-mass. An absolute V.S. now...
I forget to say, I'm not a guitarist, but my husband is. He has a band named SPELL and they played in bars and clubs years ago, where they got huge applause and screams.
All my knowledge about music is learned from him, but I still have a lot to learn to "argue" with you here, hah hah...
He composes and sings too, including Grunge, fusion, progressive, and even death metal.
I think he must be willing joining in your discussion if he could use English well 🙂
Originally posted by artstates
Bingo!My husband also like these two types!
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Originally posted by Spang53
If you are actually searching for something that has both technicality and emotionality you need to listen to soothsayer by Buckethead. That is the only song I have been able to find that has both in abundance
Really, only one song?
Here, give this a listen. Hope you like it...
Re: Guitarist...Technical vs. Emotional
Originally posted by Tengu
Well, i was watching John Fruciante on youtube, and I read some of the comments and some kid was bashing him, and saying he wasnt that impressive cuz he uses funk and pentatonics (blues scales), which are sort of looked down on for how easy they are to learn. of course its opinion and a subjective one at that...but It seems to me that this opinion has been echoed by alot of other guitarist... Another instance...I rememeber i showed my brother-in-law ( a bass player) a clip of one of Slash's blues solos and he said technically hes not that impressive, and he picked apart his solo. See, when I heard it for the first time I cared more about the feel of the music, not soo much the scales he was using, or picking apart his solo... Slash and Fruciante are more of emotional type players, who know how to rock and sway a crowd with their solos...
Now..on the other side of the spectrum...you have players like Steve Vai or Joe Satriani, who are technically perfect...but have been criticzied, because while they're solos are fast and precise, wide and long in range they transmit zero emotion to the audience... of course subjective
so what im saying is..it seems like they're is this black and white spectrum in guitaring, where you have emotional players who can stir the crowd with the strum of 5 notes, but technically compared ...arent that impressive (Hendrix, Fruciante, Slash, Page, Clapton, Santana). Then you have technical guitarist who can do every and anything with the guitar..but where is the feeling? ( Vai, Satriani)
not bashing any guitarist or downing any of the ones mentioned above, cuz i love all of em...but this is more of a guitar philosophy question...
What do you guys think? do this specturm exist? and are you more a technical or emotional advocate?
At times, when music is composed especially on guitar and violin, the music can almost become technicaly emotional. I'm saying this from past experiences with several bands I have worked with, where their musical pieces are given a technical approach and at times they do come off as robotic and not fitting. Which is why they are given an emotional treatment as they have dubbed it, where the piece is then played with the rest of the band to give it meaning and intensity so to speak.
I do believe music isn't really educated. People have grown to lead successful music careers without any musical education. It comes from the heart and soul, so I suppose good music is the one that's created with soul and emotion imo.
Well, I also think that music, as technical as it may be at times, is still emotional. thee emotions that Steve Vai and Joe Satriani put on their work is still a sort of emotion. Every music is trying to convey something, if they aren't, then they aren't musicians. A meaning and an emotional are in every song. Most of the songs that The Sex Pistols have have a meaning and an emotion of anger to give the listener a motive on how to feel. Therefore, if every music style has emotion, then emotion gobbles up the competition, and thus makes technical stylings, an emotion.
where would the wipers and specifically, Greg Sage fit into this categorization? I mean, he's technically a very proficient guitarist who is fully capable of tapping and shredding like any big haired butt-rocker but only chooses to use his virtuosity where appropriate in songs and otherwise uses very simple chords and phrases that fit the emotion of the tunes.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Prince, Zappa, Fripp, Blackmore, May, Hendrix, Page, Akerfeldt, Morello.
Throw Neal Schon in on that too.
I'm a Schon-fanboy and it's a shame how underrated and ignored he is. Brian May and Steve Vai have gone on record practically fellating the man. His SSB is better than Hendrix's, imho. This is one of them (you can watch it in high quality), but there are about a dozen others of him playing it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-BknAz9kIE
And odd enough, speaking of May, I never really appreciated his guitar work. But I just got done watching the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert and nearly cried. Sad thing.
Hell, since I'm on a Schon-sausage-fest, might as well point out that he did an album called "Voice" where he covered famous pop and rock songs and played instrumental versions. Here's his cover of Celene Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"
He was probably naming guitarists that filled the criteria who he liked, hence why Schon wasn't there.
Nothing Schon has done creatively has ever impressed me either, so I wouldn't have named him as someone who does great on both technical and musical fronts.
You can't realistically start having textual anal sex with Schon and then expect us to legitimately consider what you're saying. You are a Schon fanboy, self-proclaimed, so do consider that you possibly have a greater appreciation than is deserved, hence is the case with most fanboys.
-AC