Guitarist...Technical vs. Emotional

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He was probably naming guitarists that filled the criteria who he liked, hence why Schon wasn't there.

I didn't question why Schon wasn't present. It never surprises me to see that he is ignored by most individuals.

Nothing Schon has done creatively has ever impressed me either, so I wouldn't have named him as someone who does great on both technical and musical fronts.

Creativity is subjective, AC. I'm not questioning his list nor yours.

You can't realistically start having textual anal sex with Schon and then expect us to legitimately consider what you're saying.

Anal sex? Nonsense. He and I barely know one another. Moreover, didn't you once tell me that Jimi Hendrix was "teh best technical guitarist EVAR!!1!"

He's not, so should we ignore everything you say, sir? 😉

Anyways, I'm not suggesting that people appreciate Schon because I say so. I provided a link to his Star Spangled Banner which I find to be better than Hendrix's version. No doubt you'll disagree.

You are a Schon fanboy, self-proclaimed, so do consider that you possibly have a greater appreciation than is deserved, hence is the case with most fanboys.

AC, wrap your head around the idea that I'm not pushing Schon upon you or cramming him down your throat. You've all provided the names of some people whom you believed to have a combination of technical, creative, and songwriting talent. I believe Schon to be one of them.

And that's the end of that.

Being technically proficient at guitar is a plus, but if you can't write good music with it then it's almost pointless. I like Vai and Satriani and all those other psychos, but a lot of their songs seem like the equivalent of musical masturbation.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Being technically proficient at guitar is a plus, but if you can't write good music with it then it's almost pointless. I like Vai and Satriani and all those other psychos, but a lot of their songs seem like the equivalent of musical masturbation.

That is a problem that Schon has at his concerts. Just nonstop shredding.

Edit: Do you not like shredding?

Originally posted by Gideon
Anal sex? Nonsense. He and I barely know one another. Moreover, didn't you once tell me that Jimi Hendrix was "teh best technical guitarist EVAR!!1!"

He's not, so should we ignore everything you say, sir? 😉

Either I was joking or I've never said it, because I've consistently placed others above him, technically speaking.

Originally posted by Gideon
Anyways, I'm not suggesting that people appreciate Schon because I say so. I provided a link to his Star Spangled Banner which I find to be better than Hendrix's version. No doubt you'll disagree.

AC, wrap your head around the idea that I'm not pushing Schon upon you or cramming him down your throat. You've all provided the names of some people whom you believed to have a combination of technical, creative, and songwriting talent. I believe Schon to be one of them.

And that's the end of that.

I wasn't having a go at you, I just think you aren't helping yourself.

If you want to promote Schon awareness, it's best not to be a raving fanboy, because then people who don't actually know him probably won't even bother.

-AC

If I knew what his address was, I'd drive into the city, find Kip Winger's house and make him read this thread so he'd understand why Winger has always sucked ass

Originally posted by Gideon
Hell, since I'm on a Schon-sausage-fest, might as well point out that he did an album called "Voice" where he covered famous pop and rock songs and played instrumental versions. Here's his cover of Celene Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SAvuAWDDYw&feature=related

It's clever, but why cover such an abysmal song?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
It's clever, but why cover such an abysmal song?

No idea. He covered some stuff by Bryan Adams, too. My guess is that he took songs famous for vocal delivery and used it on his guitar, to replicate and emulate the sound. It's his style, the "singing guitar."

I imagine so, but it's just hard to look beyond the song choice.

Originally posted by Gideon
That is a problem that Schon has at his concerts. Just nonstop shredding.

Edit: Do you not like shredding?

I like shredding up to a point. If it takes up a good portion of the song, though, I get kinda tired of it.

Indeed. The ear can not live on shred alone.

I hate the over arpeggiated sweep picking Yngwie thing.

F**king souless when over used.

Its easier in many ways that feel based string bending, once learned and maintained with regular riffery and that why a lot of players employ it. It saves the more physically overwhelming/draining experience feeling. But it just becomes like a gymnastic kinda sounding jerking off session.

I purposefully only throw that shit in on like two passages a night if at all. The rest bores crowds eventually, no matter how cleanly its executed.

Fact: Voodoo Chile played with constant 16th right hand tapping and rididulously fast black metal diminished Em scale arpeggios all over it would sound like shit. ✅
No Jimis thing would be more to bend on that high e string and hold and wail for like eight seconds like in Machine Gun and sound like a god.

Having said all that, theres nothing wrong with learning those flashy techniques, but its important to not overuse them.
"Wield it with taste" etc.
Van Halen always balanced feel and technique well.

Groove, Groove, Groove. Thats where its at.

Doesn't the Youtube tag work anymore?

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