Cassandra Cain VS Captain America

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Also just read 44. No were does it states his healing was amped. Are you assuming without proof.

Don't get me wrong they said he's always been able to heal. Thats why that one guy wasn't impressed with his healing of the incision done by the laser. But he was impressed with him healing from the Dead.

Which mind you Captain America has done when proclaimed dead as he did it too.

Just different writers for Slade/Cap portray there healing on different levels. Doesn't mean either of there healings were amped up.

Slade was diagnosed as being DEAD in #44; that he came back from that is YET FURTHER PROOF that his healing had been amped.

its not an assumption, but proven fact.

and did Cap SELF-REVIVE from being dead, or did he have help??

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Slade was diagnosed as being DEAD in #44; that he came back from that is YET FURTHER PROOF that his healing had been amped.

its not an assumption, but proven fact.

and did Cap SELF-REVIVE from being dead, or did he have help??

Tazer

Yo.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
No help. He was shot in the forehead, pronounced dead for a dozen minutes or so at the hospital and gets up on his own.

no kiddin' huh? I guess his head was sturdier than his body......

wat ish was this in??

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

ok, since I need to spell this out 4 ya: the effects of ACTH in his system were apparently ramped up when they were reactivated by Chesire & her crew, as earlier in the run he [b]states that he could heal from any NON-LETHAL wound........

Id say falling 15-stories & landing flat on yur face would constitue a LETHAL wound, wouldnt U?? especially considering he *was* pronounced dead at the scene.

also, U never asked for me to provide the issue where it STATES this, only to show that it had been done. I have done this.

actually, the above wouldve been BEFORE he was shot (as it was his wife who took his eye), and a further proof that his ability to heal had been ramped up a *just* a notch.

and note on that SAME PAGE he also says that he can heal from virtually any NON-LETHAL wound......not *all*.

apparently his eye is was about the limit of said ability, whereas AFTER he had been amped by Chesire he could even re-grow brain matter (bio-tip: IRL neither the brain nor the eyes regrow when severely dmg'd) like wat happend to him in DS #60.

its not an assumption, but proven fact.

Tazer [/B]

I see all that talk and all you have is a feat of assumption. Were does it state his healing was jacked up. Its just being portrayed differently.

Your answer because I say so doesn't cut it.

15 stories eh I've seen Cap taken a beating from a blood lusted Ironman that too should count as a death but not always these are the comics. I see you didn't back up your claim. Figures.

Now back to your regular broadcasting programs.

Originally posted by Tazer
Slade was diagnosed as being DEAD in #44; that he came back from that is YET FURTHER PROOF that his healing had been amped.

its not an assumption, but proven fact.

and did Cap SELF-REVIVE from being dead, or did he have help??

Tazer

You haven't proved anything. Logans healing is portrayed differently from different writers so it doesn't mean his healing has increased. It just best to use his average healing showings of what constitutes what it is the average. Which since he has so many shows makes it difficult to do.

Cap goes from healing from being dead and comes back to life from a bullet to the head and completely recovered to other times needing to heal from other incidents longer. Wow I guess he healed from the dead his healing must be jacked up.

Or wait his portrayal was just different.

Yo.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
I see all that talk and all you have is a feat of assumption. Were does it state his healing was jacked up. Its just being portrayed differently.

Your answer because I say so doesn't cut it.

incorrect: its not becuz *I* said so, its simply a matter of observable fact. if Slade himself says that he can heal from any non-lethal wound, and he goes thru a process which strips him of said ability, and then goes thru another, more extreme experience to get it back....and we see things we hadnt seen before......then theres really only 1 conclusion that can be made.

just becuz theres no line of text that says "we amped his HF" doesnt mean it wasnt done, just like theres no line of text saying Thanos w/IG was the strongest being in the universe......yet we know that he was, correct?

Originally posted by Daredevil1
15 stories eh I've seen Cap taken a beating from a blood lusted Ironman that too should count as a death but not always these are the comics. I see you didn't back up your claim. Figures.

well, that would count as a death if he DIED. if he didnt die then it doesnt count as a death.

and my claim is perfectly backed up, but its not surprising to see that U'd deny it.now THAT figures.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
You haven't proved anything. Logans healing is portrayed differently from different writers so it doesn't mean his healing has increased. It just best to use his average healing showings of what constitutes what it is the average. Which since he has so many shows makes it difficult to do.

when Logan had the metal removed it was observed that his ability looked to have jumped up a few notches, I think we all can agree that that this was true yes?

so if SLADE HIMSELF says that he currently could heal from virtually any non-lethal wound......and then he: 1) falls 15+ stories to his death AFTER being stabbed by a large blade, AS WELL AS 2) has part of his cranium & brain matter blown away, and these things happend *after* a medical procedure is done on him........Id say THAT is a case of observable fact, and the only thing it lacks is somebody in-comic to say so.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap goes from healing from being dead and comes back to life from a bullet to the head and completely recovered to other times needing to heal from other incidents longer. Wow I guess he healed from the dead his healing must be jacked up.

if it was something that occured ONCE Ud have a point and I likely wouldnt have even brought it up, *however* w/Slade we have TWO INSTANCES of him coming back from death unaided.

so yea Id say "wow I guess he heald from the dead his healing must be jacked up."

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Or wait his portrayal was just different.

if it were diff writers Id agree, but since it was Marv Wolfman in EACH of the scenarios I mentioned.....Id say the SERIES CREATOR was clearly trying to give the impression that his ability to heal had been markedly changed.

but hey, if U wanna go on acting like it didnt, thats kewl: I learned a long time ago that some ppl just liked to live along that river in Africa too much to ever wanna leave.....

enjoy yur stay there.

Tazer

Not just different writers but even the same. Dan Jurgens classed Cap Olympic athlete once and then had him survive a nuclear reactor to even toss his shield at a ICBM.

The writer himself could have just decided to change the portrayal of his healing. Anyhow I see you couldn't produce a simple quote that's so hard for you to produce.

If you say his healing is further enhanced then the burden of proof is on you.

I've seen Cap struggle to flush out poisons in one instance.

Then in others he's blocking out alien viruses and resisting the Red Dusk of death that killed 1000's as he didn't even bother receiving treatment for it like the others the first time.

OMG I guess his healing is jacked and got further enhanced.

Thats why he came back from the dead.

I'm using your logic of course.

Still Rogers

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

incorrect: its not becuz *I* said so, its simply a matter of observable fact. if Slade himself says that he can heal from any non-lethal wound, and he goes thru a process which strips him of said ability, and then goes thru another, more extreme experience to get it back....and we see things we hadnt seen before......then theres really only 1 conclusion that can be made.

just becuz theres no line of text that says "we amped his HF" doesnt mean it wasnt done, just like theres no line of text saying Thanos w/IG was the strongest being in the universe......yet we know that he was, correct?

well, that would count as a death if he DIED. if he didnt die then it doesnt count as a death.

and my claim is perfectly backed up, but its not surprising to see that U'd deny it.now THAT figures.

when Logan had the metal removed it was observed that his ability looked to have jumped up a few notches, I think we all can agree that that this was true yes?

so if SLADE HIMSELF says that he currently could heal from virtually any non-lethal wound......and then he: 1) falls 15+ stories to his death AFTER being stabbed by a large blade, AS WELL AS 2) has part of his cranium & brain matter blown away, and these things happend *after* a medical procedure is done on him........Id say THAT is a case of observable fact, and the only thing it lacks is somebody in-comic to say so.

if it was something that occured ONCE Ud have a point and I likely wouldnt have even brought it up, *however* w/Slade we have TWO INSTANCES of him coming back from death unaided.

so yea Id say "wow I guess he heald from the dead his healing must be jacked up."

if it were diff writers Id agree, but since it was Marv Wolfman in EACH of the scenarios I mentioned.....Id say the SERIES CREATOR was clearly trying to give the impression that his ability to heal had been markedly changed.

but hey, if U wanna go on acting like it didnt, thats kewl: I learned a long time ago that some ppl just liked to live along that river in Africa too much to ever wanna leave.....

enjoy yur stay there.

gee whiz, this was a long post! 🙂

Tazer

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Not just different writers but even the same. Dan Jurgens classed Cap Olympic athlete once and then had him survive a nuclear reactor to even toss his shield at a ICBM.

The writer himself could have just decided to change the portrayal of his healing. Anyhow I see you couldn't produce a simple quote that's so hard for you to produce.

If you say his healing is further enhanced then the burden of proof is on you.

I've seen Cap struggle to flush out poisons in one instance.

Then in others he's blocking out alien viruses and resisting the Red Dusk of death that killed 1000's as he didn't even bother receiving treatment for it like the others the first time.

OMG I guess his healing is jacked and got further enhanced.

Thats why he came back from the dead.

I'm using your logic of course.

Golly this was a long post too, but like the other one, I sure didn't bother to read it! 🙂

Originally posted by Juk3n
[B]Still Rogers [/B]

Are you even contributing to the v.s forum, Like I am? You make me sick.

Still Rodgers. Yay! Imake u sick!

Originally posted by DeathKap
Still Rodgers. Yay! Imake u sick!

no, you mispelt his name, therefore, I just lol @ it all.

Originally posted by Dr Hackenbush
Are you even contributing to the v.s forum, Like I am? You make me sick.

O'RLY - then proceed to puke yourself off of my internetz mr sensitive

and your one to speak of "contributing" mr

Originally posted by Dr Hackenbush Golly this was a long post too, but like the other one, I sure didn't bother to read it!

😛

still rogers still rogers still rogers still rogers

Like the new sig Juk3n

Originally posted by DeathKap
Like the new sig Juk3n

🙂 thx bud

Yo.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Not just different writers but even the same. Dan Jurgens classed Cap Olympic athlete once and then had him survive a nuclear reactor to even toss his shield at a ICBM.

The writer himself could have just decided to change the portrayal of his healing. Anyhow I see you couldn't produce a simple quote that's so hard for you to produce.

Marv Wolfman was more than just the writer of DS's book, he's also 1 of the guys who created him; if HE makes a change to a character that he brought into existence, and its not some "1 minute Im up here, next minute Im down here" -type of portrayal (like wat U could argue for Cap) then Id say THAT hold greater weight for support than any cries of "its a singular high-end feat that shouldnt count!" to NOT support it.

and proof of claim isnt only supplied by a stated quote for any given argument, but by facts which anybody can see/observe and have/has access to; its just the SIMPLEST & EASIEST WAY to do so.

that U still decry DS having his healing boosted isnt surprising.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
If you say his healing is further enhanced then the burden of proof is on you.

well, its a good thing Ive done so then.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
I've seen Cap struggle to flush out poisons in one instance.

Then in others he's blocking out alien viruses and resisting the Red Dusk of death that killed 1000's as he didn't even bother receiving treatment for it like the others the first time.

OMG I guess his healing is jacked and got further enhanced.

Thats why he came back from the dead.

I'm using your logic of course.

well, using YUR LOGIC then Cap is clearly superior to DS in healing since he only struggled to flush out poisonous toxins, whereas Slade had *a fever*......so clearly he is pwned here.

yea, this is a much better way to make an argument.

Tazer

Cap ftw.. 9/10

^ IMHO, not quite that high, but dare I argue against he who has mini-Deadpool as an avatar?

cap is overall more then Cass.. he is superhuman.

his fighting style may be basic but his stats make it just as dangerous due to his reaction time.. as was noted by Ironfist when he fought him.

^ I agree. But while Cap rarely underestimates foes, there are fewer people that are more "under-estimatable" than Cassandra Cain.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I agree. But while Cap rarely underestimates foes, there are fewer people that are more "under-estimatable" than Cassandra Cain.

i actually think cassie is over estimated in forum battles. if you mean in comic battles then yes, i can see some ppl underestimating her due to size.

i dont see Cap falling victim to such a rookie mistake seeing as he constantly fights powerful ppl whose physical appearance hides true power.