Phantom Zone
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Originally posted by willRules
My Reasoning is that Nightwing is faster, has dodged bullets from trained marksmen on numerous occasions and has superb fighting skills taught to him by Batman that he has developed.
That is ABC logic! How is telling me hes dodged bullets from expert marksmen and telling me hes been trained by Batman any different from me saying hes shooting NW because hes shot Spiderman.
Its the samething but my logic is better. So wait a sec Spiderman is faster than NW but because NW has dodged bullets from trained marksmen all of a sudden NW wins the majority. Im sorry but can you see the double standards?
At the end of the day you can't help using ABC logic to an extent all one can do is look at the people the characters have fought and compare abilities. If Frank had only shot one top tier then you would be right. Hell if character A had beaten lots of top tier fighters would you assume he would lose to second tier? At the end of the day Frank has shot people who are faster and at least comparable in training. To just fobb it off as ABC logic is unfair, especially when you have done so yourself.
Originally posted by willRules
He outclasses Frank pretty much physically IMO with the possible exception of Frank's legendary endurance.
So does Kraven The Hunter look what happened to him.
Originally posted by willRules
Frank is an amazing marksman but he isn't shooting the greatest acrobat in the DCU. I don't think Frank should really be able to shoot DD (Although it was cool when he did in Miller's run).
Wheres you proof? Telling me that NW has dodged expert marksmen before doesnt prove anything. Telling me thats hes been trained by Batman does not prove anything.
Not only did Frank shot DD as I mentioned he also dropped a chimney on him. Not only that Frank could have shot Winter Soldier as well. Winter Soldier had to back down because he didn't want his brains blown out. Now all of a sudden Franks not shooting him? Whats NW got that Spiderman, DD, Cap and Winter Solider don't?
Also saying that DD kicked Franks ass in DD vs Punisher is not entirely accurate. The first fight ended up with DD on his ass. How can you bring up a fight which Frank had with DD when he lost because he was trying to save somebody else, thats the whole reason why Frank lost that fight. 😬 Also the fights that DD has won have circumstances to them.
Originally posted by willRules
Don't get me wrong it won't be an easy fight, it's a brilliant match up but I think ultimately Nightwing has the edge in a couple of areas that tilt the scales in his favour.
No offence but you haven't proven anything. All you told me was that NW has dodged expert marksmen and hes been trained by Batman....serioulsy am I just supposed to just accept that and end of discusion? Serioulsy don't you even think that you could have at least exlained to me who these marksmen where and compared feats?
I edited my last post but forget it.