Punisher vs Nightwing

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Originally posted by Raoul
H2H: Nightwing for a majority.

Weapons: Frank can take it.

I don't read a lot of Punisher at all. Curious as to why PZ thinks Punisher is better H2H than Nightwing, though.

If its in the Respect Thread, I guess I'll be forced to go look. lol

Originally posted by starlock
C'mon....is that the proper way to respond!

What can I say im not perfect, usually when im rude people deserve it. However ive noticed even when posters do deserve to be insulted you stick your nose in without even knowing whats going on. For the most part I tend to be polite, I mean what do you do scan the forum and what for me to be rude and pass judgement?

Hell I remember one time when I insulted Battlehammer and you said some shit like it made me look bad. Hell you've got some posters on this forum that are the most rudest obnoxious mother****ers but its like you just pop out of nowhere and want to start telling me how to behave.

Anyway im not even sure the guy would have been that offended.

Originally posted by starlock

.....man you have been riding the punisher for a while now.....they have a name for people like you...i think its...hmmmm fanboy?

Give me examples then.

Originally posted by starlock

Maybe he did not notice the 2 times you altered the threads stipulations?..if i had not...i would have given Nightwing 10/10 😉

Wait whats going on. Are you trying to start some shit with me. First of all when did I do that? Secondly if I did so what?

Originally posted by Enyalus
I don't read a lot of Punisher at all. Curious as to why PZ thinks Punisher is better H2H than Nightwing, though.

Er I dont think I said that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Er I dont think I said that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Nah Nightwing loses Punsiher can take him h2h

*shrug*

Originally posted by Enyalus
*shrug*

Ummm if you think about the post and read my other posts you can see that this does not neccesarily mean I think Punisher is better at h2h.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ummm if you think about the post and read my other posts you can see that this does not neccesarily mean I think Punisher is better at h2h.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Even if it was h2h I think its at least a split or 6/10 to Pun.

That was your very next post. And, I read all of the posts in this thread, not just yours.

I'm inclined to give Punisher the majority in this thread because of his weapons. I Just wanted to know why you seem to think he's better than NW H2H, which at least three of your posts in this thread suggest.

Ok does this help.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Thats not unreasonable but I see him losing. Frank has been 'upgraded' and he has too much damage soak.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Ok does this help.

👆 🙂

Was just curious. Like I said, I don't follow Punisher much at all. I know he's very good H2H, I just wouldn't put him on NW's level. Damage soak helps, you're right.

Originally posted by Enyalus
👆 🙂

Was just curious. Like I said, I don't follow Punisher much at all. I know he's very good H2H, I just wouldn't put him on NW's level. Damage soak helps, you're right.

Ok no prob. The thing is DD usually kicks Franks arse because Frank isnt as fast but if you look at there last fight DD was punching Frank in the face and he was laughing. Now consider the fact that Punisher has gotten faster in the PWJ series and this one and NWs going to have one hell of a time.

DD is arguably better than NW and if DD is going to have trouble putting him down NW aint going to do it against a faster Frank, hes going to really ahve to **** Frank up to put him down and also if things get rough Frank will start fighting dirty, hes not above biting.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
DD is arguably better than NW and if DD is going to have trouble putting him down NW aint going to do it against a faster Frank, hes going to really ahve to **** Frank up to put him down and also if things get rough Frank will start fighting dirty, hes not above biting.

I agree with all of that.

Coolness. So, Punisher might take 7/10 IMO.

As much as I wanna say that Frank shoots him down I don't see it happening. Not with the speed feats NW has.

Originally posted by SamZED
As much as I wanna say that Frank shoots him down I don't see it happening. Not with the speed feats NW has.

Dodging three bursts of HV point blank comes most immediately to mind, lol.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I agree with all of that.

Coolness. So, Punisher might take 7/10 IMO.

Yes that could defintely happen. Lets also mention he stalemated an enhanced martial arts expert who beat Black Panther, and that was after fighting superhumans and blacking out.... 😱

Originally posted by SamZED
As much as I wanna say that Frank shoots him down I don't see it happening. Not with the speed feats NW has.

Punisher has gotten alot faster.

It would end like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P35eZvHwDs8

Originally posted by iceman24567
I don't think Frank can shoot him 😬. Frank has damage soak but Nightwing even as a young Robin koed Blockbuster like a ***** plenty of times and the guy is bullet proof.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Bullshit.

to you and others Is Frank using teflon coated bullets?

Nightwing wins h2h

Nightwing wins w/ weapons

Nightwing wins with no arms and no legs

Nightwing will always win.

man this place hasn't changed.
apparently if you disagree with people when they give no reasons why Nightwing can defeat Punisher in h2h you're a fanboy.

so I skim through this thread and I see all sorts of stuff about how Nightwing will win h2h because he's going to one day surpass Batman, he can dodge bullets, he's more acrobatic and that he has better feats. well, all this is good but Dicky has:
-not yet surpassed Bruce so lets just drop this one already
-he can dodge bullets but Frank has put down other people who can too
-he is more acrobatic but Frank has gone through more acrobatic dudes in the past and (the keyword) won
-better feats....is highly subjective. to me, a regular man well past his prime (Frank is in his late 50's) with no superpowers but sheer wilpower defeating dudes like DareDevil, Spiderman, Tombstone, Wolverine, Bullseye to name a few makes his feat much more impressive than dude whos practically grown up around legendary superheroes and lived with the best h2h fighter that DC has to offer.

with guns, this goes to Frank 7/10 (i'm being generous). Frank's shot DareDevil, Captain America, Wolverine and had repeatedly shown that he can shoot them whenever he wants to.
wihtout guns, Frank wins 6/10. the man's stalemated DareDevil in h2h combat, crippled Bullseye, held his own against Wolverine and Moonknight and even defeated Tombstone......all people who can very well give Batman himself a good time in a fight, let alone Nightwing

~Sado

Well Dick is Batman and he pwned Jason Todd to get the mantle and talk about damagae soak. Nightwing for the majority.

^ Jean Paul Valley was Batman once doesnt mean he was as good as Batman. Im not sure if Jasons damage soak is as good as Punishers.

Anyway I dont think NW hits harder than DD or Kraven so...