Sidious was a master at force lightning. He was a master at force concealment, able to conceal his force power from the jedi for decades. He used the dark side to cloud the jedi order's vision, and manipulate people. He was so good at telekenesis that he was able to rip senate pods from their durasteel restraints, and send them flying at Yoda with great ease. Sidious used a weird hypnotic ability on Galen Marek(Vader's secret apprentice), entering his mind and putting thoughts in his head. He found a way to cheat death by putting his spirit in clone bodies. Sidious was able to spread his dark energy throughout the planet byss, dominating the wills of the inhabitants that lived there, and sucking their life energies from them. His power in the dark side was so intense that he was able to rip holes in the fabric of space and time, creating powerful force storms to reduce entire starfleets to dust, or even tear surfaces from planets even lightyears away. Sidious also mastered sith alchemy, and was able to mutate creatures with the dark side, or empower individuals and armies with the dark side.
Darth Vader even with his suit was powerful enough to kill countless jedi single handedly. He Gave Galen Marek a good fight, and Galen was said to have been one of the most powerful force users in history. Vader was so skilled at force choke that he can choke someone without having to be in the same room. Vader's strength in the dark side was powerful enough to crush entire war vihicles, or the bodies of his opponents. He was able to rip the thoughts out of people's minds.
Sidious and Palpatine win this. Sidious will handle Nihilus, while Vader handles Traya and Sion. Please don't say they will kill Vader with force lightning, because Galen Marek was unable to kill Vader with force lightning, and Galen was more powerful than they were.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66What's stopping Nihilus from doing to Vader what he did to Traya? All it takes is a flick of his hand, and I doubt that Vader - who, while being exceptionally powerful, isn't much of a scholar - would be able to defend against a technique that Traya herself believes has no defense.
Sidious and Palpatine win this. Sidious will handle Nihilus, while Vader handles Traya and Sion. Please don't say they will kill Vader with force lightning, because Galen Marek was unable to kill Vader with force lightning, and Galen was more powerful than they were.
Alone, Sidious doesn't stand a chance.
Well still either way Sidious has more power at his disposal. Remember Nihilus was a master of force drain, while Sidious was the master of the dark side, in which force drain was a dark side technique. According to the Dark Side Sourcebook Sidious was the most powerful practitioner of the dark side, and had mastered nearly every technique of the dark side, and created his own techniques. Sidious also had the ability to enter someones body and smother out the spirit that dwells within. So who is to say that if Nihilus took Sidious's life essence that Sidious coulded posses Nihilus's body?
Originally posted by FaunusAnd what did he exactly do to traya? Cut her off the force? Then why was she still able to reach out with the force to attempt to call forth her lightsaber?
What's stopping Nihilus from doing to Vader what he did to Traya? All it takes is a flick of his hand, and I doubt that Vader - who, while being exceptionally powerful, isn't much of a scholar - would be able to defend against a technique that Traya herself believes has no defense.Alone, Sidious doesn't stand a chance.
When she said "i was stripped of my power", it could also mean that her position as the head of the triumvirate was casted down and stripped.
Besides, if he is so powerful, being able to tool kreia with a mere force push, why couldn't he do the same to mandalor or the exile?
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Well still either way Sidious has more power at his disposal. Remember Nihilus was a master of force drain, while Sidious was the master of the dark side, in which force drain was a dark side technique. According to the Dark Side Sourcebook Sidious was the most powerful practitioner of the dark side, and had mastered nearly every technique of the dark side, and created his own techniques. Sidious also had the ability to enter someones body and smother out the spirit that dwells within. So who is to say that if Nihilus took Sidious's life essence that Sidious coulded posses Nihilus's body?
I'm not sure Nihilus has a body. Man, though, the comparisons between them are interesting.
Originally posted by SchwarzeneggerYou did notice that her attempt failed miserably, right? And then she got her face owned by Sion.
And what did he exactly do to traya? Cut her off the force? Then why was she still able to reach out with the force to attempt to call forth her lightsaber?
Like I said earlier - whatever he did, her Force ability was reduced to a level below that of freezing-cold, upside-down, face-slashed-open ESB Luke Skywalker.
Besides, if he is so powerful, being able to tool kreia with a mere force push, why couldn't he do the same to mandalor or the exile?Did you read any of my previous posts?
He put all three of the attackers in stasis as soon as they walked up to him. He could've killed them then. Instead, he tried to do his thing to the Exile, and the attempt back-fired and crippled him. That's how he died. When he was already starved - which was why he was going to destroy Telos - after he'd tried to "sever" the Exile, after he'd already locked her, Visas, and Mandalore in stasis.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66Then he would get owned by Traya/Sion...
Vader wouldn't be fighting Nihilus, he would most likely go after Traya and Sion.
Sidious has mastered force drain just like Nihilus has. Whats to stop Sidious from reducing Nihilus and his fleet to dust with a force storm?One thing at a time. First off, there's no fleet, and if Sidious uses his Force-storm he would die immediately. Think, please.
Second, Nihilus doesn't use a "drain." He severs connections to the Force, and then feeds on the reverberations caused by the resulting deaths.