Originally posted by Enyalus
If they get close enough for sabers then Revan is screwed. If not, well, Revan > Team.
The duo are well outmatched in the force and sabers. I would prolly put Revan at his full power in line with NJO Luke though thats just my opinion. Either way, Revans feats are far more inpressive than anything that Obi wan and Qui gon have done so thats why Revan is the most reasonable choice here.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
How do you know that they're superior to Revan in sabers? Or is that just an assumption?
Qui-Gon was Dooku's best apprentice and one of the most skilled duelists of his Order. ROTS Obi-Wan Soresu was top-notch. And Revan's saber skills are unknown. Thus, team gets the nod based on what we know and feats performed.
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
ya but isn't revan's skills always assumed to be average? along with his force? everyone assumes revan's power and specialism. But enough, we know that revan is the pwnzrz and takes them out, just cause they are annoying. And revan has a wai cooler outfit then both of them put together.
Thank you for your informed and enlightening opinion.
Originally posted by Great Vengeance
I would prolly put Revan at his full power in line with NJO Luke though thats just my opinion.
You'd be wrong. And that's not just my opinion. If we're to take Darth Malak at his from his observation that Revan, at the end of KotOR, as a Jedi, was more powerful than as his tenure as a Dark Lord of the Sith, he is inferior to Yoda, whom the omniscient narrator of Revenge of the Sith declares "the most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known."
I must be the only person in the world who hates Revan's outfit. The only uber coolz outfit of the KotOR timeline is Nihilus'.
And the team will win the saber fight. I can also see them taking an all-out fight, actually; who is to say that Revan's lightning, say, will break through Obi-Wan's defenses, considering that Dooku's (who is an extraordinary force user) lightning could not budge Obi-Wan when Obi-Wan was far, far weaker than he is now? Well, I suppose that Revan can defeat him in a force fight, overall. But in an all-out fight? I suppose he can destroy Qui-Gon with the force and proceed to do the same to Obi-Wan.
But, I see Revan managing to kill Qui-Gon with the force and being forced to engaged in a saber duel with Obi-Wan, where Obi-Wan certainly has a chance.
It could go either way, really. I'm undecided.
Jesus Christ, I just friggin' blanked. It was either in the TFU novelization, CVD, or Clone Wars Visual Guide where Kenobi is stated to be a true master of both Ataru and Soresu. It doesn't matter, though. Revan's Force powers are seemingly a tier or so above Count Dooku's own. The duo might be able to overcome him in a lightsaber battle, but his mastery of the Force is simply too great for them.
Well, while Revan's knowledge base and dark side mastery should be above Dooku's, Dooku is still a skilled force user. And, mind you, Obi-Wan blocked Dooku's lightning (easily) when he was far weaker than in his incarnation during this duel. He could resist Revan's lightning for some time.
Maybe Qui-Gon will be a force dummy, so Obi-Wan can close in and saber duel Revan. Don't you think Obi-Wan can beat him in a lightsaber duel?
No, I don't think Obi-Wan, one on one, could beat Revan. He uses a defense style. He'd end up like in his fight with Dooku on the Invisible Hand. Also, Revan made his own effing Sith Holocron, plus wrote at least one book on the Dark Side. Safe to say, his knowledge and control of the Force is greater than Dooku's.
In a pure saber duel, not an all-out fight.
Well, if what Gideon says is true and Obi-Wan is a master of both Ataru and Soresu, well, that should end the 'he has no offense!' argument. Ataru is one of the most offensive forms, and Revan is a complete unknown in lightsaber dueling- with what we know of Obi-Wan, who is a top-notch lightsaber user, he could beat Revan in a pure saber duel.
Originally posted by Gideon
You'd be wrong. And that's not just my opinion. If we're to take Darth Malak at his from his observation that Revan, at the end of KotOR, as a Jedi, was more powerful than as his tenure as a Dark Lord of the Sith, he is inferior to Yoda, whom the omniscient narrator of Revenge of the Sith declares "the most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness had ever known."
And how did you deduce hes inferior to Yoda? Opinion. Also about the Sidious quote, the ROTS novel is not exactly a trustworthy source because it contradicts the movie several times, but either way that quote is unrelated to Revan because he has the option of becoming a Jedi, and even if he becomes a Sith its heavily implied in kotor 2 that it was solely for the reason of countering the hidden sith empire and that Revan never truly fell.