Sarah Palin??

Started by Adam_PoE51 pages
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
she doesn't seem to be a "career"/self-serving politician in the sense that she seems to have gotten into public involvement/office to, in her view at least, improve her community/town/city and work for her constituents and I can respect that at least.

As mayor of Wasilla, Palin cut taxes while simultaneously expanding the town’s operating budget by almost $2 million. She ended her term in 2002 with Wasilla $20 million in debt.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
As mayor of Wasilla, Palin cut taxes while simultaneously expanding the town’s operating budget by almost $2 million. She ended her term in 2002 with Wasilla $20 million in debt.

Sounds like contemporary "republicanism" to me.

She will be examined hard by the press in the weeks to come.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
As mayor of Wasilla, Palin cut taxes while simultaneously expanding the town’s operating budget by almost $2 million. She ended her term in 2002 with Wasilla $20 million in debt.
I don't know if that invalidates my comment; more if invalidates the Republican argument about "executive experience." Apparently she wasn't a fantastic executive of Wasilla.

Also I wonder how miffed Biden is at being the invisible man.

Originally posted by GlobalTechDept
She will be examined hard by the press in the weeks to come.

😂

I volunteer to examine her hard.

Funny enough, no one knows who the father of Bristol Palin's child is. Is it this black guy?

Youtube video

Who knows? But seriously, no one knows who the father is.

Ermm... isn't it supposed to be this dude:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/levi-johnston-bristol-pal_n_123089.html

anyone voting in this election owes it to themselves and their country to check out these videos...

Sarah Palin Church Speech

Sarah Palin Church Speech (2)

the Iraq War is a task from God? Wow..

On the media and lying about Sarah Palin


KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON:Is it fair to ask about the experience of any candidate for vice president? Of course. Any candidate for president? Of course. And it isn't sexist or racist to raise that question.

It also isn't ageist to ask the question whether or not someone who has been in Washington for a very long time yet engages in certainly kinds of behaviors that are different than someone who's been in Washington a much shorter period of time. And so the question is, what's the standard you bring? And what is, as a result, the evaluation that you make?

Here's where I have a problem with the vetting analysis. The press is eager to say she may not have been properly vetted by Senator McCain. And there's certainly evidence that she was vetted very, very quickly. How adequately we're finding out now as the press reporting moves forward. But that doesn't justify the press engaging in vetting which is also too quick and not properly informed. They actually seem to be vulnerable in some cases to the charge they're investigating about Senator McCain.

Let me give you an example. On CNN earlier this week Soledad O'Brien picks up something apparently from e-mails, although perhaps from bloggers because it's circulating in both places, and takes as fact that Governor Palin has cut special needs funding. Now, if she has, that evocative moment in the speech in which she promised to be the advocate for special needs children is an act of hypocrisy. So very important moment. However, it's raised on the assumption that it's true. It's asserted as true by Soledad O'Brien. When Soledad O'Brien raises it, the McCain spokesperson responds by defending what the governor will do in the future, the reasonable viewer watches and says, "Well, the McCain spokesperson isn't defending and saying she didn't do it. Perhaps she did."

Now you have a moment in which journalism has deceived its audience because in the rush to make this point about possible hypocrisy, a major commentator on a major network has asserted as fact something which doesn't hold up. It took the FactCheck.org researcher that I called on my staff about four hours to get back to the primary research documents.

BILL MOYERS:And it said?

KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON:That Sarah Palin had increased funding for special needs children. There was a change in the category in the budget in which it was housed. And as a result, there was some confusion. And some people had generalized from the budget proposed by the predecessor that she defeated.

KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON:And so the problem I have with some of the press coverage is that in the rush to vet, they made the mistake they were accusing the McCain campaign of. But I don't think that has anything to do with gender. I think that has something to do with the nature of 24-hour-a-day journalism.

BILL MOYERS😮ne that...

KATHLEEN HALL JAMIESON:But I think it's problematic. However, in all of this, the press did something very important because it took another key claim that Governor Palin had made, that she opposed the Bridge to Nowhere. Well, as reporters quickly pointed out and accurately pointed out, she opposed it pretty much after she'd favored it and after it was all but gone anyway and the state did take the money. Now, there's an instance in which reporting was quick, but the reporting was accurate and the press performed its function effectively. None of that has to do with gender.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09052008/transcript4.html

Originally posted by inimalist
On the media and lying about Sarah Palin

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/09052008/transcript4.html

Doesn't this happen to ALL politicians to some degree? KidRock is doing it on Obama in a different thread.

That's an issue of responsible journalism and the individual informing themselves.

This isn't just new to Palin.

i agree

Shaky had mentioned lying earlier, people asked for an example, I am obligated to provide 😉

Have you guys seen the mags out this week? There was one attacking for her daughters pregnancy.

But muckraking on either side is frankly unbecoming. Would you really want to be the left-leaning KidRock?

I don't know if I'm more upset with being called for muckraking or being assumed to be left-leaning...

needless to say, I am not saying she is a liar, just providing some stuff to back up something mentioned earlier in the thread. I don't think I ever insinuated that Mrs Palin is getting it worse than anyone else

Originally posted by inimalist
I don't know if I'm more upset with being called for muckraking or being assumed to be left-leaning...

needless to say, I am not saying she is a liar, just providing some stuff to back up something mentioned earlier in the thread. I don't think I ever insinuated that Mrs Palin is getting it worse than anyone else

I wasn't referring to you actually...

More the swirling rumor mill... such as speculation about Bristol Palin's "baby daddy" not being the person she says it is. Or earlier the immediate bizarre Kos attack on her Down's syndrome son not being hers.

(I should quote to make things more clear.)

I think the right wants her to get hit hard, then she looks like the victim and gets sympathy.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I wasn't referring to you actually...

More the swirling rumor mill... such as speculation about Bristol Palin's "baby daddy" not being the person she says it is. Or earlier the immediate bizarre Kos attack on her Down's syndrome son not being hers.

lol, my bad

oh god, I'm so glad I pay no attention to the mainstream media sometimes. Sure, I'm 4-5 days behind people in relevant news, but I don't have to deal with that shtick.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I wasn't referring to you actually...

More the swirling rumor mill... such as speculation about Bristol Palin's "baby daddy" not being the person she says it is. Or earlier the immediate bizarre Kos attack on her Down's syndrome son not being hers.

(I should quote to make things more clear.)

Well on that point, it is incredibly hypocritical to call for family values when you can't even hold them in your own house. Generally speaking, the age 18 is where people in the U.S. start to give more responsibility to the youth. She isn't even that old and she is supposedly engaged.

What a great example for our country.

Yes, these things happen, but you can't preach what does not even occur in your own home. It just looks crazy.

What horrible taste she has as well, who would name their child Bristol?

Named after a pack of cigarettes?