Sarah Palin??

Started by Robtard51 pages
Originally posted by BackFire

That's not why we went to Iraq though. The only reason Al-Queada is there is because we're there. They weren't there before. So it's a catch-22.

Amazing how people forget about that WMD business. A war sold on that explicitly, now it's WMD what?

To be fair; apparently all she basically did was commit to the Article V obligations of the NATO charter. In theory, Obama, McCain and Biden would all presumably give a similar answer.

On the Bush Doctrine, it seems that no one seems to know exactly what the Bush Doctrine is.

From the excerpts I've seen so far, I would give her a low PASS mark; she seems to be holding her own against what could and presumably will be perceived by the Republicans and the poor unwashed masses they now claim to represent hostile "gotcha" interviewing. But she's not performing brilliantly.

And all this she's a religious nut talk seems rather counterproductive. Most Americans are relatively religious and nutty. Attacking her on substantive issues is more likely to have an effect.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
To be fair; apparently all she basically did was commit to the Article V obligations of the NATO charter. In theory, Obama, McCain and Biden would all presumably give a similar answer.

On the Bush Doctrine, it seems that no one seems to know exactly what the Bush Doctrine is.

From the excerpts I've seen so far, I would give her a low PASS mark; she seems to be holding her own against what could and presumably will be perceived by the Republicans and the poor unwashed masses they now claim to represent hostile "gotcha" interviewing. But she's not performing brilliantly.

And all this she's a religious nut talk seems rather counterproductive. Most Americans are relatively religious and nutty. Attacking her on substantive issues is more likely to have an effect.

I respect this post.

I know that you don't support her and would prefer the other ticket, but thank you for giving both good criticism of the candidate while brushing off nonsense arguments that lead nowhere.

Personally, I think that in a debate on the issues and policies, people wil favor McCain/Palin, but of course I'm biased. 😛

Not everyone is going to jump at support for a woman who would war with Russia, or try to.

She could be your president, I just hope America are smarter than to vote Republican this time. For MY country's sake of association.

-AC

Again "woman who would war with Russia" is misleading. All the candidates support the accession of Ukraine and Georgia into NATO. All the candidates would have to express openness to the possibility of providing military support should a NATO member be attacked; or they'd essentially be reneging on NATO. Her answer was simply less nuanced than a veteran pol would give.

It's probably of greater note that she said Russia's recent incursion was "unprovoked", when most foreign policy experts apparently consider Georgia to have "provoked" Russia, via it's own military action in South Ossetia.

I found that odd, to be honest.

It seems like she's the kind of woman who would go in with any excuse, and if there is none, she'd make one up.

-AC

I've voting Obama.......even if I I weren't, I would not vote for McCain/Palin.

I don't agree with McCain's views, hell, I probably don't agree with the views of many geezers in their 70s. Even if I did, Palin would kill the ticket for me. McCain already has health issues and is extremely old. He could kick at any time. I wouldn't vote for him soley based on the way he is being so irresponsible with our government. It isn't a joke, it isn't about showmanship. In the incredibly likely event that he dies in office, he should not be handing the reigns of a world super power over to a 2 year governor of Alaska. A person responsible for governing mostlly Carribou, Moose and a few people. Her previous experience? Mayor of a town of 9,000 people. Jesus christ.....my high school principal governed that many people.

It's my own personal belief we should put a maximum age restriction on all people running for political office of any kind. As people get old, they are no longer representatives of a society as they grew up in a completely different society. When McCain was growing up, his society deemed segregation perfectly fine. He was taught n-gger was just another word for black folks. While he may have changed with the times, the society he was raised in no longer resembles the society he wishes to represent today.

ps. got to love the way Palin sticks to her guns. In her own state of Alaska she lobbied for abstinence only sex education in schools. Her views led to her own teenage daughter being pregnant. Now that she is, she's being forced to marry the guy who knocked her up. Shotgun weddings........Palin will return this country to it's former greatness, by former greatness I mean the 1950s.

that should be McCain/Palin's motto. remember the 1950s? we're bringing it back.

False.

She favors contraception taught along with abstinence. A fair stance, by most peoples view.

I respect your right not to agree with her, but really...why are all these distortions purported as "fact"?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
False.

She favors contraception taught along with abstinence. A fair stance, by most peoples view.

I respect your right not to agree with her, but really...why are all these distortions purported as "fact"?

A don't believe it's fair. Abstinence doesn't work, it shouldn't be taught at all.

It's like teaching the idea that the Sun revovles around the Earth with the currently accepted theory.

Originally posted by lord xyz
A don't believe it's fair. Abstinence doesn't work, it shouldn't be taught at all.

It's like teaching the idea that the Sun revovles around the Earth with the currently accepted theory.

Don't be a moron.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't be a moron.
I'm not, being a moron would be wasting money by funding abstinence programmes.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I'm not, being a moron would be wasting money by funding abstinence programmes.

I think the problem is that you are drawn in by ideas that you don't fully understand. What people have a problem with is abstinence ONLY (the only thing, that you seem to miss, is really important)...hardly anyone I know would deny that abstinence is a valid and also safe method to prevent STDs and pregnancy. It should be a part of sexual education for sure. Of course it's also obvious that sithsabre would like a sex education that mostly focusses on Absitence...which can be stupid.

Anyways, don't knee-jerk into everything, take a minute to think then form a well thought out opinion.

So, you're just going to ignore my wasting money point?

You'd have a point if you had some empirical evidence that combined programmes of encouraging abstinence alongside providing information on STDs and contraception conclusively has no benefit. But I'm unaware of such studies.

Originally posted by lord xyz
So, you're just going to ignore my wasting money point?

How much extra do you think it would cost to have a gym teacher (or whoever runs the class) say "Oh yeah, and if you don't have sex you're not at risk for any of this." along with the current programs? (hint: sex-ed techers do that already)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How much extra do you think it would cost to have a gym teacher (or whoever runs the class) say "Oh yeah, and if you don't have sex you're not at risk for any of this." along with the current programs? (hint: sex-ed techers do that already)
If your gym teacher was Oprah or Bill Gates it would be ludicrously expensive considering how much they earn per minute...

But I'll bite and say it costs maybe 70c.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If your gym teacher was Oprah or Bill Gates it would be ludicrously expensive considering how much they earn per minute...

But I'll bite and say it costs maybe 70c.

Are you crazy?

Yes. Next question.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes. Next question.
I wish I'd get 70c per sentence 🙁

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
If your gym teacher was Oprah or Bill Gates it would be ludicrously expensive considering how much they earn per minute...

But I'll bite and say it costs maybe 70c.

$25.41 actually. Per word. Sex education's over rated.