Sarah Palin??

Originally posted by lord xyz
What benefit would come from teaching abstinence?

I'd imagine it's akin to the argument of how to teach religion.

Teaching people about religion is a valuable and needed part of a working society. It gives people knowledge and a further option of how to live their own lives, if done correctly and fairly.

Same with abstinence; it's a viable option and it may appeal to some people, so it's important teachers say to kids "It's ok to go and have sex as long as you take all necessary precautions, physical and emotional. It's also ok not to have sex at all, if that's your choice, and here are some of the legitimate benefits of that.".

-AC

It does.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Ahaha, okay.

Abstinence teaches teens to not use condoms, homosexuality is bad, and tells teens what to do, or rather, what not to do. I don't like it, and don't see any benefits from teaching it.

I think that's kinda the same problem conspiracy nuts have, when you call their theories a "conspiracy". To you abstinence has those connotations (like "conspiracy" to them is a synonym for "crazy"😉. In fact abstinence is only "not having sex" (like a conspiracy is a "secret plot"😉.

Like we said all along, you misunderstand abstinence, and are thinking of "Abstinence Only" education as sometimes proposed or even taught in the USA.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'd imagine it's akin to the argument of how to teach religion.

Teaching people about religion is a valuable and needed part of a working society. It gives people knowledge and a further option of how to live their own lives, if done correctly and fairly.

Same with abstinence; it's a viable option and it may appeal to some people, so it's important teachers say to kids "It's ok to go and have sex as long as you take all necessary precautions, physical and emotional. It's also ok not to have sex at all, if that's your choice, and here are some of the legitimate benefits of that.".

-AC

I always viewed teaching abstinence with the lies about condoms, masturbation and homosexuality attributed to it.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Ahaha, okay.

Abstinence teaches teens to not use condoms, homosexuality is bad, and tells teens what to do, or rather, what not to do. I don't like it, and don't see any benefits from teaching it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Way to dig yourself out of stupid comments with more stupid comments.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't see how that would be categorised as teaching abstinence along with it, but okay.

I always viewed teaching abstinence with the lies about condoms, masturbation and homosexuality attributed to it.

What are you talking about?

Nonsense.

-AC

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't see how that would be categorised as teaching abstinence along with it, but okay.

I always viewed teaching abstinence with the lies about condoms, masturbation and homosexuality attributed to it.

You're done.

You're just a pissed of anti-theist looking for reasons to whine about theists.

Get over it. Not everything is theologically motivated.

If you don't want to get pregnant, mess with your hormones or uterus, or get an STD, abstinence is the best way. The BEST way to avoid STDs and pregnancy is simple abstinence. I really don't see how a condie can protect you from the jina juices that you get all over your balls, taint, base of the c*ck, the primary pubes growin' area (I don't know that name of that place between the belly button and weeeenar.), and sometimes the ***hole. (kinky, anyone?)

If you can't wait until marriage, then be very careful on how and where you put that thing...you're literally gambling and b*tches ain't be tellin' da troof about dey jinas.

But let's be honest. People are going to have sex. And a lot of it. So tell them the honest truth about condoms, and if you go on and on about abstinence, no one's going to pay any attention.

Originally posted by Kinneary
But let's be honest. People are going to have sex. And a lot of it. So tell them the honest truth about condoms, and if you go on and on about abstinence, no one's going to pay any attention.

IMO, trying to teach teenagers abstinence does nothing because the more you tell them not to have sex, the more they will want to. It's better to educate teens about practicing safe sex, using birth control and being careful.

Why is everyone assuming that the emphasis would be "Adopt abstinence."?

Teaching kids ABOUT it does not mean SUGGESTING it. It means...teaching kids about it. Like religious education, it's education on...religious matters. Not a recruitment class for the Jesus Corps.

-AC

Originally posted by Kinneary
But let's be honest. People are going to have sex. And a lot of it. So tell them the honest truth about condoms, and if you go on and on about abstinence, no one's going to pay any attention.

I fully agree. All sides of the die have to be given so the "kids" can make the best choices. It's up to the children to weigh their options. The safest position is the ultra conservative one...which was my point. I'm not preaching "abstinence", I was simply addressing XYZ's "why abstinence" question.

Even AFTER you get married, you're just as much at risk for all that other shit I mentioned...but a couple SHOULD be honest with each other IF they're going to make that type of legal agreement.

Originally posted by Röland
Not to just "jump in", but I agree with Kinneary.

IMO, trying to teach teenagers abstinence does nothing because the more you tell them not to have sex, the more they will want to. It's better to educate teens about practicing safe sex, using birth control and being careful.

By all means, jump in any time. I don't think you "jump in" enough in the GDF.

I agree somewhat with what you say. They need to be taught about all of it...including the NEGATIVES of each.

1. Abstinence-No lovin's sucks really bad.
2. Condoms-Can give a false idea of safety, you can still get just about every STD with one, but you're protected much more with it.
2. Birth Control-...

bla bla bla.

Dude, even things like oral can get you into trouble so "abstinence" is still not the best way.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Why is everyone assuming that the emphasis would be "Adopt abstinence."?

Teaching kids ABOUT it does not mean SUGGESTING it. It means...teaching kids about it. Like religious education, it's education on...religious matters. Not a recruitment class for the Jesus Corps.

-AC

True. I've said before that it should be an "all of the above" being taught and not just one or the other. Kids should get to hear the positives and negatives about it all.

In the end, my advice is the best.

Originally posted by dadudemon
If you can't wait until marriage, then be very careful on how and where you put that thing...you're literally gambling and b*tches ain't be tellin' da troof about dey jinas.

I don't care who you are and how super your libido is, if she's a skank, you take a "skip" on it and find someone else. If you DO wanna dip, wrap the tip.

Originally posted by Kinneary
But let's be honest. People are going to have sex. And a lot of it. So tell them the honest truth about condoms, and if you go on and on about abstinence, no one's going to pay any attention.

Even I have a hard time believing people are quite that stupid. Telling people that not having sex prevents pregnancy and STDs isn't going to make them go have unprotected sex unless they're too inbred for it to matter anyway.

Originally posted by Kinneary
But let's be honest. People are going to have sex. And a lot of it. So tell them the honest truth about condoms, and if you go on and on about abstinence, no one's going to pay any attention.

We agree there. It's just the absolute distatste for any sort of mention of abstinence that is ridiculous. It is a valuable option and many teenager do make use of it...when they decide to have sex though they should just as well be aware about risks and protection. A thorough sex education is the only way that the money spend on it will actually work as well as possible.

What about the teenagers who pledge abstinence, and don't use contraception when they actually do have sex?

Originally posted by lord xyz
What about the teenagers who pledge abstinence, and don't use contraception when they actually do have sex?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Those are idiots. Why? Seems kinda separate.

Originally posted by lord xyz
They don't use contraception because that's what abstinence teaches.

Weird, I remember abstinence programmes teaching people not to use condoms.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Weird, I remember abstinence programmes teaching people not to use condoms.

YOU...ARE...THINKING....OF...ABSTINENCE ONLY PROGRAMMES. You tard.

For the last time, what you are misunderstanding is that abstinence is obviously a part of sex ed that needs to be addressed. You are just being confused cause you don't ****ing understand what the people you blindly follow say. It's ridiculous. This whole ****ing argument for 3 pages is based on you being a ****ing retard.

Abstinence: No sex til marriage, no contraception, no masturbation etc.

Sex ed: How to use contraception, about having sex etc.

So, teaching abstinence with sex ed would be teaching both of those hand in hand, no?