Originally posted by jrodslamSo you think it would take the power of TOAA or something equivalent to stop Spectre? 😐
In DoV, Spectre was briefly slowed a couple of times, but the only one that was truly capable of stopping/defeating him was God. Yea Thanos, Strange and Doom have the prep here, but anything less of Marvels=to God and they lose.
Originally posted by jrodslamSpectre was curbstomped by an amped Captain Marvel. The only reason he survived this encounter was because the Enchantress turned evil and stopped funneling into him these energies.
In DoV, Spectre was briefly slowed a couple of times, but the only one that was truly capable of stopping/defeating him was God. Yea Thanos, Strange and Doom have the prep here, but anything less of Marvels=to God and they lose.
Originally posted by Mindset
So you think it would take the power of TOAA or something equivalent to stop Spectre? 😐
To be blunt, yes. Nabu didn't screw up and get killed by Spectre as a consequence. He went in knowing that he could not win. But fighting Spectre was the only way he could be stopped. Nabu didn't let Spectre kill him, that wouldn't have gotten the result he wanted. He fought Spectre using his full power in order to force the Presence to take notice. The Presence came in because it could not tolerate Spectre's actions anymore.
Nothing less than the LT would be able to bring down Spectre.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestNabu let the Spectre kill him.
To be blunt, yes. Nabu didn't screw up and get killed by Spectre as a consequence. He went in knowing that he could not win. But fighting Spectre was the only way he could be stopped. Nabu didn't let Spectre kill him, that wouldn't have gotten the result he wanted. He fought Spectre using his full power in order to force the Presence to take notice. The Presence came in because it could not tolerate Spectre's actions anymore.Nothing less than the LT would be able to bring down Spectre.
He did this so that the tenth age of magic would begin.
You are overrating the Spectre here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Spectre was curbstomped by an amped Captain Marvel. The only reason he survived this encounter was because the Enchantress turned evil and stopped funneling into him these energies.
Spectre was getting a nice physical pounding by Cap being amped, however had the feeding continued, it would have not killed nor completely defeated the Spectre. even when the magic amped to Cap was stopped, it was stated that he still had plenty of juice left.
In DoV, Spectre went after the big guns first, so its clear to assume that Strange would be one of Spectres first targets. Also, because (correct me if im wrong) Strange draws many of his magical energies from other beings or artifacts, Spectre would target them first before actually going for Strange.
I cant see what these 3 are doing thats gonna defeat Spectre.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nabu let the Spectre kill him.
Nabu knew that he couldnt beat Spectre. He was fighting with everything he had, but obviously it didnt matter none. He went into the fight knowing that he was going to die, but before he engaged, he tried to reason with Spectre.
I dont think Spectre is being overrated here. There was nothing Nabu could do.
Originally posted by jrodslamThe scans say otherwise. It was only speculation when the comment was made that he surely had enough power in him to defeat the Spectre. He didnt,but if the power was still being channeled into Marvel he would have destroyed the Spectre. The Spectre even admits he was close to being destroyed.
Spectre was getting a nice physical pounding by Cap being amped, however had the feeding continued, it would have not killed nor completely defeated the Spectre. even when the magic amped to Cap was stopped, it was stated that he still had plenty of juice left.In DoV, Spectre went after the big guns first, so its clear to assume that Strange would be one of Spectres first targets. Also, because (correct me if im wrong) Strange draws many of his magical energies from other beings or artifacts, Spectre would target them first before actually going for Strange.
I cant see what these 3 are doing thats gonna defeat Spectre.
Originally posted by jrodslamNabu knew that he needed to die so that the tenth age of magic could begin.
Nabu knew that he couldnt beat Spectre. He was fighting with everything he had, but obviously it didnt matter none. He went into the fight knowing that he was going to die, but before he engaged, he tried to reason with Spectre.I dont think Spectre is being overrated here. There was nothing Nabu could do.
Nabu even admitted he let the Spectre win.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To be blunt, yes. Nabu didn't screw up and get killed by Spectre as a consequence. He went in knowing that he could not win. But fighting Spectre was the only way he could be stopped. Nabu didn't let Spectre kill him, that wouldn't have gotten the result he wanted. He fought Spectre using his full power in order to force the Presence to take notice. The Presence came in because it could not tolerate Spectre's actions anymore.Nothing less than the LT would be able to bring down Spectre.
You realize you contradict yourself within the same post, right?
LT is weaker than TOAA...
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
This battle isn't hard to fathom at all. The team uses Doom's time platform, grabs the Spear of Destiny and win.
BS. They don't know about it, and they can't get it. Prior to FC, it was lost in a dimensional seal. I'm not sure how Darkseid retrieved it.
Not to mention the curse will make them fight each other for it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The scans say otherwise. It was only speculation when the comment was made that he surely had enough power in him to defeat the Spectre. He didnt,but if the power was still being channeled into Marvel he would have destroyed the Spectre. The Spectre even admits he was close to being destroyed.
Yes and Spectre also goes to say that he can never truly be defeated or drained(something i said in a previous post) until all magic is gone. Then hed take himself out. Spectre saying he was close to being destroyed was only hyperbole. He would have only been temporarily defeated.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nabu knew that he needed to die so that the tenth age of magic could begin.Nabu even admitted he let the Spectre win.
True Nabu knew he needed to die, but he also knew there was no way that anyone could defeat Spectre.
Spectre was going to kill Nabu regardless and Nabu knew it. Nabus plan was to let him kill him sooner than later. Nabu even stated that there was no hope of stopping Spectre.
Originally posted by MindsetNo,I bet he still doesnt realize it.
You realize you contradict yourself within the same post, right?LT is weaker than TOAA...
Originally posted by jrodslamYou are falling for the Spectre's bs when he couldnt destroy magic at all. He just brought about the tenth age. He stated it himself that he was almost destroyed and had to have eclipso cart his sorry ass to space to recover.
Yes and Spectre also goes to say that he can never truly be defeated or drained(something i said in a previous post) until all magic is gone. Then hed take himself out. Spectre saying he was close to being destroyed was only hyperbole. He would have only been temporarily defeated.
Originally posted by jrodslamHe also knew that he needed to die to bring about the tenth age. He wanted to help Spectre at this point and said so earlier in the same comic.
True Nabu knew he needed to die, but he also knew there was no way that anyone could defeat Spectre.Spectre was going to kill Nabu regardless and Nabu knew it. Nabus plan was to let him kill him sooner than later. Nabu even stated that there was no hope of stopping Spectre.
The point is Nabu wanted to be destroyed and let the Spectre kill him. Thats the bottom line.
Originally posted by TricksterPriestHmmm. Your point about them lacking knowledge of it makes sense. Only governments, the Justice League and DC magicians really knew about it. Not exactly general knowledge. If they have no access to such databases, it'd be much harder to find out Spectre's vulnerability. And while I believe that time travel or magical incantations could reveal the same information, would two weeks be enough time to research Spectre and reveal this vulnerability? Hard to argue yes.
BS. They don't know about it, and they can't get it. Prior to FC, it was lost in a dimensional seal. I'm not sure how Darkseid retrieved it.Not to mention the curse will make them fight each other for it.
But if they did find out about it, they could simply use Doom's time platform to head back to 1 A.D. and get it then, rather then deal with trying to retrieve it in the present. And Doom and Thanos both already are evil. Superman had the will to overcome it's taint. Thanos and Doom's will are up to task. IIRC, the curse only compelled those who held it to do evil. It didn't compel everyone around the Spear to fight each other for it's possession.