Originally posted by thtadthtshldntbHe isnt crushing Black Adam. No,I dont know ehre you are getting this from.
WM Thor crushes him.WM Thor without PG was physically strong enough to knock Drax with the PG unconscious for quite a bit of time with one shot. Maxam had to drag Drax off the battle field. Later, he recovers and Thor gets the PG from him.
Drax,obviously wasnt tapping into the power gem subconsciously at the time.
BA only got as far as he did because
a) Superman was depowered at the time, Superman would have owned him
b) The main line heroes acted like retards, cleaning up the damage after the fact, while he is on a rampage. PG plus a couple of GLs should have went after him right away, and there would have been less dead Teen Titans.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntbI have never seen Superman do what Black Adam did in ww 3. Ever.
BA only got as far as he did becausea) Superman was depowered at the time, Superman would have owned him
b) The main line heroes acted like retards, cleaning up the damage after the fact, while he is on a rampage. PG plus a couple of GLs should have went after him right away, and there would have been less dead Teen Titans.
Regardless,Black Adam would beat Thor. The only reason Black Adam was stopped because MM attacked his mind while Captain Marvel depowered him.
Well I should hope so, its not everyday that Superman goes mad and kills millions.
And if current Superman did, remember he can melt the surface of planet in one shot with his hv (he has reheated it in seconds from an ice age to normal temps), or he can just punch the Earth and blow it apart.
Superman is on panel, recently stating twice IIRC that he can destroy planets by punching them. BA is not that powerful.
But wait.... another uber Superman feat... an explosion that blew apart a star, only managed to knock him unconscious for a few minutes...
Power Girl should have been able to solo BA, but PG plus several GLs and Alan, and the MM and quite a few others?
Are you kidding me?
Oh wait... they did not have to, they sent the Teen Titans after BA, because clearly cleaning up the damage after BA's rampage was somehow more important that stopping the rampage.
B&T Thor fairly effortlessly dealt with the Silver Surfer, BRB and then the Infinity Watch, before he got the PG.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntbYes,Terrax and the Surfer can easily destroy planets as well. That doesnt mean you will ever see them destroy 616 earth in battle. Horrible logic imo.
Well I should hope so, its not everyday that Superman goes mad and kills millions.And if current Superman did, remember he can melt the surface of planet in one shot with his hv (he has reheated it in seconds from an ice age to normal temps), or he can just punch the Earth and blow it apart.
Superman is on panel, recently stating twice IIRC that he can destroy planets by punching them. BA is not that powerful.
But wait.... another uber Superman feat... an explosion that blew apart a star, only managed to knock him unconscious for a few minutes...
Power Girl should have been able to solo BA, but PG plus several GLs and Alan, and the MM and quite a few others?
Are you kidding me?
Oh wait... they did not have to, they sent the Teen Titans after BA, because clearly cleaning up the damage after BA's rampage was somehow more important that stopping the rampage.
B&T Thor fairly effortlessly dealt with the Silver Surfer, BRB and then the Infinity Watch, before he got the PG.
Do you think no one will try to stop Superman from destroying earth? Seriously? I mean Am and his entire army got beat when they tried taking over earth and you actually think that Superman can destroy it by his lonesome this easily.
Again,on panel BA was kicking the shit out of Power girl,etc. He was taking them out in waves. So,regardless of your opinion she got her ass beat by ww 3 Black Adam in a comic.
And? He only beat their combined efforts with the power gem. That was the only reason.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes,Terrax and the Surfer can easily destroy planets as well. That doesnt mean you will ever see them destroy 616 earth in battle. Horrible logic imo.
If Superman were acting like BA did and wanted to kill everyone, which was basically what BA was doing just piece meal, he could one shot almost every on the planet. BA cannot. That's the point.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you think no one will try to stop Superman from destroying earth? Seriously? I mean Am and his entire army got beat when they tried taking over earth and you actually think that Superman can destroy it by his lonesome this easily.
They were trying to take it over, not destroy it.
As to stopping Superman from destroying the Earth, all he has to do is fly lightspeed and its gone, and no one short of the Spectre or Zauriel would have the reaction time to stop him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again,on panel BA was kicking the shit out of Power girl,etc. He was taking them out in waves. So,regardless of your opinion she got her ass beat by ww 3 Black Adam in a comic.
Lol, you are defending Writer Induced Stupidity.
I don't know you personally, but what is your opinion of Firelord getting his ass kicked by Spiderman or Captain America knocking out the Hulk?
Both have happened.
Originally posted by quanchi112
And? He only beat their combined efforts with the power gem. That was the only reason.
No, he beat them all before he got the PG. The he got it and they went to Thanos for help.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntbSuperman went mad before and failed to oneshot WW. So,you are just speculating.
If Superman were acting like BA did and wanted to kill everyone, which was basically what BA was doing just piece meal, he could one shot almost every on the planet. BA cannot. That's the point.They were trying to take it over, not destroy it.
As to stopping Superman from destroying the Earth, all he has to do is fly lightspeed and its gone, and no one short of the Spectre or Zauriel would have the reaction time to stop him.
Lol, you are defending Writer Induced Stupidity.
I don't know you personally, but what is your opinion of Firelord getting his ass kicked by Spiderman or Captain America knocking out the Hulk?
Both have happened.
No, he beat them all before he got the PG. The he got it and they went to Thanos for help.
Point is,no one is destroying earth in a comic no matter how easy it appears to do so.
So,the flashes cant stop him?What about Supergirl,Powergirl,etc.?
No,Im defending whats in an actual comic while you are creating scenarios in your head that have never been written into a comic.
Spiderman has no shot against Firelord, so comparing that to this is completely ridiculous imo.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Superman went mad before and failed to oneshot WW. So,you are just speculating.
Back when Lois was kidnapped among several million people in a really assine Superman story arc, about a year before IC, WW tried to stop Superman, and he basically one shot her with a backhand, across the Fortress of Solitude. It was in Superman 211.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Point is,no one is destroying earth in a comic no matter how easy it appears to do so.
Last i checked this battle was in this forum not in a comic. Aren't the rules here about the characters using all of their abilties to the fullest?
Originally posted by quanchi112
So,the flashes cant stop him?What about Supergirl,Powergirl,etc.?
They would basically hear or sense him move, then see/experience the explosion of the Earth, and then have to deal with the aftermath.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No,Im defending whats in an actual comic while you are creating scenarios in your head that have never been written into a comic.
You are defending writers making characters act like morons.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Spiderman has no shot against Firelord, so comparing that to this is completely ridiculous imo.
Lol. Firelord should not have even been able to feel Spiderman hitting him. Yet the writer wrote it anyway.
The writer(s) of WW3 had the characters acting like morons, just like they did in Amazons Attack.
BA should have been taken down by a squad of GLs plus Alan, Supergirl, Powergirl, WW and the MM to name the big ones, in the first issue. Not had only the Teen Titans chasing him for three issues.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntbAlan Scott>WW. Black Adam wasnt just facing Alan Scott either.
Back when Lois was kidnapped among several million people in a really assine Superman story arc, about a year before IC, WW tried to stop Superman, and he basically one shot her with a backhand, across the Fortress of Solitude. It was in Superman 211.Last i checked this battle was in this forum not in a comic. Aren't the rules here about the characters using all of their abilties to the fullest?
They would basically hear or sense him move, then see/experience the explosion of the Earth, and then have to deal with the aftermath.
You are defending writers making characters act like morons.
Lol. Firelord should not have even been able to feel Spiderman hitting him. Yet the writer wrote it anyway.
The writer(s) of WW3 had the characters acting like morons, just like they did in Amazons Attack.
BA should have been taken down by a squad of GLs plus Alan, Supergirl, Powergirl, WW and the MM to name the big ones, in the first issue. Not had only the Teen Titans chasing him for three issues.
Yes,they are.
The flash is quicker than Superman.
Its still in a comic. The excuse that they were acting like morons seems like a cop out to me.
How many punches does it take Superman to destroy earth,anyways?
Yes,Spidey has no shot against Firelord but Black Adam is a lot more powerful than Spiderman. He was powered up and pissed off. The comic explains all of this along with the retcon.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Alan Scott>WW. Black Adam wasnt just facing Alan Scott either.
Black Adam does not have the feats that put him in Superman's class. It comes down to that, as i have stated before in this thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The flash is quicker than Superman.
The Flash(es) are depicted about as quick/agile/fast as Superman, only when they draw upon the Speedfarce more greatly than normal do they surpass Superman in those areas. And when they draw that much, the risk of getting sucked in becomes paramount.
Basically, if Superman wanted to destroy the Earth, he could fly FTL through it almost instantaneously. From a standstill.
But that's besides the point.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Its still in a comic. The excuse that they were acting like morons seems like a cop out to me.
That's why we have the concepts of PIS and WIS. It happens all the time sadly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How many punches does it take Superman to destroy earth,anyways?
Well the GBE (gravitational binding energy) of the Earth is something like 2.5 *10^32 Joules of energy, so based on the damage we have seen Superman inflict via punches, I would speculate somewhere between 10 and 20, but it could be less with his recent power up.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes,Spidey has no shot against Firelord but Black Adam is a lot more powerful than Spiderman. He was powered up and pissed off. The comic explains all of this along with the retcon.
And Superman is a lot more powerful than Firelord (physically, not in terms of abstract powers).
BA does not have Superman level physical feats. He is on that level below Superman. Arguably he is almost as strong, but not as durable.
Dumb Drax, the one who WM Thor knocked out with one shot, could split with BA.