Warrior Madness Thor vs. WW 3 Black Adam

Started by vansonbee3 pages

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Black Adam does not have the feats that put him in Superman's class. It comes down to that, as i have stated before in this thread.

The Flash(es) are depicted about as quick/agile/fast as Superman, only when they draw upon the Speedfarce more greatly than normal do they surpass Superman in those areas. And when they draw that much, the risk of getting sucked in becomes paramount.

Basically, if Superman wanted to destroy the Earth, he could fly FTL through it almost instantaneously. From a standstill.

But that's besides the point.

That's why we have the concepts of PIS and WIS. It happens all the time sadly.

Well the GBE (gravitational binding energy) of the Earth is something like 2.5 *10^32 Joules of energy, so based on the damage we have seen Superman inflict via punches, I would speculate somewhere between 10 and 20, but it could be less with his recent power up.

And Superman is a lot more powerful than Firelord (physically, not in terms of abstract powers).

BA does not have Superman level physical feats. He is on that level below Superman. Arguably he is almost as strong, but not as durable.

Dumb Drax, the one who WM Thor knocked out with one shot, could split with BA.

I totally agree.

Drax even without the power gem is very durable/powerful and this is WM THOR, who is 10 time stronger then the average Thor. Black Adam won't s tand a chance.

The fight in WW Black Adam was crazy fight, but ridicules because hero's who are range goes close for beating. MM just stands there looking sad like Indian..

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Black Adam does not have the feats that put him in Superman's class. It comes down to that, as i have stated before in this thread.

The Flash(es) are depicted about as quick/agile/fast as Superman, only when they draw upon the Speedfarce more greatly than normal do they surpass Superman in those areas. And when they draw that much, the risk of getting sucked in becomes paramount.

Basically, if Superman wanted to destroy the Earth, he could fly FTL through it almost instantaneously. From a standstill.

But that's besides the point.

That's why we have the concepts of PIS and WIS. It happens all the time sadly.

Well the GBE (gravitational binding energy) of the Earth is something like 2.5 *10^32 Joules of energy, so based on the damage we have seen Superman inflict via punches, I would speculate somewhere between 10 and 20, but it could be less with his recent power up.

And Superman is a lot more powerful than Firelord (physically, not in terms of abstract powers).

BA does not have Superman level physical feats. He is on that level below Superman. Arguably he is almost as strong, but not as durable.

Dumb Drax, the one who WM Thor knocked out with one shot, could split with BA.

Supes has never owned this many characters at once like Black Adam has. Sorry,he hasnt.

Supes couldnt do this. You saying he could,means nothing. At least you agree that Supes couldnt take on earth in direct combat,like Adam did.

BA was powered up for this arc,so he is above Superman. These two are very comparable. I give Black Adam the slight edge due to his ferociousness and the whole magic thing.

When did Drax knock out Thor with one shot/ You really think Drax could take on BA? 😂

Originally posted by vansonbee
I totally agree.

Drax even without the power gem is very durable/powerful and this is WM THOR, who is 10 time stronger then the average Thor. Black Adam won't s tand a chance.

The fight in WW Black Adam was crazy fight, but ridicules because hero's who are range goes close for beating. MM just stands there looking sad like Indian..

MM attacked his mind.

When was it stated that blood and thunder Thor was ten times as strng as he is normally?

Originally posted by quanchi112
MM attacked his mind.

When was it stated that blood and thunder Thor was ten times as strng as he is normally?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)

It increased his fighting abilites to 10 fold.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Supes has never owned this many characters at once like Black Adam has. Sorry,he hasnt.

Supes couldnt do this. You saying he could,means nothing. At least you agree that Supes couldnt take on earth in direct combat,like Adam did.

BA was powered up for this arc,so he is above Superman. These two are very comparable. I give Black Adam the slight edge due to his ferociousness and the whole magic thing.

When did Drax knock out Thor with one shot/ You really think Drax could take on BA? 😂

Where did this power up come from? There was no depiction of a power up for BA.

Superman recently took an explosion that blew up a star and it only knocked him unconscious for a couple of minutes.

When has BA taken a hit even close to that?

As to owning so many characters at once, that is more PIS/WIS. Powergirl is equal or greater than BA, as is Supergirl.

The writer(s) depicted the heroes acting like morons.

You cannot dispute that. When they sat on their rears doing clean up after BA slaughtered someone, and blatantly refused to go after him.

Did Superman do that in DoS? How about in OWAW or IC?

And b&T Thor knocked Drax with the PG unconcious with one shot.

Dumb Drax would easily draw even with BA. That was the version who punched apart a star, if you actually read the issues.

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Where did this power up come from? There was no depiction of a power up for BA.

Superman recently took an explosion that blew up a star and it only knocked him unconscious for a couple of minutes.

When has BA taken a hit even close to that?

As to owning so many characters at once, that is more PIS/WIS. Powergirl is equal or greater than BA, as is Supergirl.

The writer(s) depicted the heroes acting like morons.

You cannot dispute that. When they sat on their rears doing clean up after BA slaughtered someone, and blatantly refused to go after him.

Did Superman do that in DoS? How about in OWAW or IC?

And b&T Thor knocked Drax with the PG unconcious with one shot.

Dumb Drax would easily draw even with BA. That was the version who punched apart a star, if you actually read the issues.

Yes,there was. It was retconned afterwards. Isis power.

Scan? Whats that have to do with anything?

Supes has been beaten by far less than a star. Punches in comics hurt more than a star,it seems.

Excuses,excuses. Its canon. Black Adam was that ferocious.

No,thats how you interpret it,not me. Read the scans again. They were clearly going after him.

I read your quote incorrectly. I thought you said that Drax had beaten up Thor. Thor beat a drax who wasnt tapping into the gem. Its obvious.

What does punching a star have to do with who wins this fight?

Originally posted by vansonbee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_(Marvel_Comics)

It increased his fighting abilites to 10 fold.

Where in the comic? Wiki is 😂 .

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
The Flash(es) are depicted about as quick/agile/fast as Superman, only when they draw upon the Speedfarce more greatly than normal do they surpass Superman in those areas. And when they draw that much, the risk of getting sucked in becomes paramount.

Basically, if Superman wanted to destroy the Earth, he could fly FTL through it almost instantaneously. From a standstill.

I've never seen Superman match a casual Flash's speed. Ever. The feats he has when he is joking, laughing, etc. are unreal.

I don't think Superman has instantaneous acceleration. At all.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I've never seen Superman match a casual Flash's speed. Ever. The feats he has when he is joking, laughing, etc. are unreal.

I don't think Superman has instantaneous acceleration. At all.

Supergirl has pawned Wally recently (Supergirl #4 IIRC).

Wally has stated on panel that Superman is about as fast as he is, as well (as I state, Wally has to draw upon the Speedfarce and then he can blow away Superman speed wise except in pure travel terms). I have seen the scan somewhere on this very site.

Btw, from the standpoint of physics, acceleration is an instantanous vector value. Its the first derivative of the velocity of the object in motion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Where in the comic? Wiki is 😂 .

Its usually in Thor's OHotMU entry, when they discuss Warrior Madness, that Thor's strength increases 10 fold.

That being said, regardless of what the entry states, Thor knocked Drax with the PG unconscious with one shot and Drax had to be dragged away from him by Maxam and Pip. That is more strength that Black Adam has ever been shown to generate.

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Supergirl has pawned Wally recently (Supergirl #4 IIRC).

Wally has stated on panel that Superman is about as fast as he is, as well (as I state, Wally has to draw upon the Speedfarce and then he can blow away Superman speed wise except in pure travel terms). I have seen the scan somewhere on this very site.

Btw, from the standpoint of physics, acceleration is an instantanous vector value. Its the first derivative of the velocity of the object in motion.

Wally also got "pawned" by a thunderclap from Konvikt. That doesn't mean Konvikt is anywhere near Wally's speed. So if you could describe how Supergirl proved to be Flash's superior, I'd appreciate it.

Wally is so much faster than Superman, it's not even funny. And the times he pushes the boundaries of Speed Force tapping, completely beyond what Superman could ever achieve. Wally has reacted within picoseconds without having to tap into the Speedforce. Superman hasn't done anything like that. Ever.

Originally posted thtadthtshldntb
Its usually in Thor's OHotMU entry, when they discuss Warrior Madness, that Thor's strength increases 10 fold.

That being said, regardless of what the entry states, Thor knocked Drax with the PG unconscious with one shot and Drax had to be dragged away from him by Maxam and Pip. That is more strength that Black Adam has ever been shown to generate.

He wasn't afflicted with Warrior Madness. They made that very clear in the comic. It's a common misconception.

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Its usually in Thor's OHotMU entry, when they discuss Warrior Madness, that Thor's strength increases 10 fold.

That being said, regardless of what the entry states, Thor knocked Drax with the PG unconscious with one shot and Drax had to be dragged away from him by Maxam and Pip. That is more strength that Black Adam has ever been shown to generate.

Thor wasnt even afflicted with warrior madness. It was thought to be that,but it turned out it wasnt. Its obvious that you didnt read the arc.

thor gets his f*cking face ripped off. srsly.

Originally posted by Galan007
thor gets his f*cking face ripped off. srsly.
Black Adam would wreck him.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[He wasn't afflicted with Warrior Madness. They made that very clear in the comic. It's a common misconception. [/B]
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor wasnt even afflicted with warrior madness. It was thought to be that,but it turned out it wasnt. Its obvious that you didnt read the arc.

Other than calling him WM Thor, since that's who the thread refers to.

Perhaps you (Quanchi) should practice the ancient art of reading comprehension.

That being said, when an Asgardian is in, and not in the WM is a matter of debate, since their is no special give away for it, other than people shouting "o crap, he is in the warrior madness".

Given that Odin was ready to proscribe the same punishment that those in the WM suffer, that is death or banishment, and that Thor acted the same as any other time that he has been in the WM, those who claim Thor was not in the WM lack some ground to stand upon.

Thor would stomp BA.

Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
Other than calling him WM Thor, since that's who the thread refers to.

Perhaps you (Quanchi) should practice the ancient art of reading comprehension.

That being said, when an Asgardian is in, and not in the WM is a matter of debate, since their is no special give away for it, other than people shouting "o crap, he is in the warrior madness".

Given that Odin was ready to proscribe the same punishment that those in the WM suffer, that is death or banishment, and that Thor acted the same as any other time that he has been in the WM, those who claim Thor was not in the WM lack some ground to stand upon.

Its a common misconception. I refer to him as blood and thunder Thor.

What other arc was thor in warrior madness?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its a common misconception. I refer to him as blood and thunder Thor.

What other arc was thor in warrior madness?

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Originally posted by quanchi112
Its a common misconception. I refer to him as blood and thunder Thor.

What other arc was thor in warrior madness?

Hulk comic where he becoming Maestro


Originally posted by vansonbee

Hulk comic where he becoming Maestro


Sounds interesting.