Originally posted by Lord S
Again, Moondragon did NOT mind-rape Galactus...it was Thanos. All Moondragon did was establish the connection. It's like my brother calling you on the phone, then handing it to me so I can verbally abuse you and make you cry.'Invaded'...nice choice of words. Xavier simply approached Galactus in astral form and asked if they could talk. Not exactly equal to a mind-rape, now is it?
Thanos did not mind-rape Galactus. Attempting to mind rape, and actually executing and succeeding are two completely different things.
I'm not going to post the scans because they're already here in the thread. Thanos tried to take Galactus off guard proceeded to ensnare him, and tried to successfully mind-rape. Thanos was repelled and moondragon had to cut off the astral projection before Galactus killed Thanos. It's all in the scans. On the immediate page following, Thanos admits he has never before seen someone with the tp skill exhibited by G....you don't say something like that concerning a "victim" of successful mind-rape. Additionally, on the same page it galactus mentions how Thanos gleaned no information. The whole rape was set up so Thanos could attain information, which he failed to do. So he did NOT succeed...he did not mind-rape. He was proceeding to mind-rape, and he started to..but was repelled and ejected from the astral plane with ease.
Also...this whole telephone analogy is flawed. Suppose the goal here is to have Thanos mind-rape Onslaught. For arguments sake lets assume he can, provided it's on the astral plane.
The encounter with Galactus proves that thanos needs assistance to even *get* to the astral plane. That's a serious liability right there...simple but serious.
If you're going to have an insult war with someone over the telephone, which you intend to win and perhaps have the capability to do so, how the fukc are you going to win if you don't even have a phone to use? same thing here.
Originally posted by Lord S
Oh boy...can I have some of what you're smoking?
Magneto has shown himself to be capable of mastering/manipulating all four of these forces. Now can someone tell me in scientific terms what Power Cosmic is supposed to be?
Lets look at the four "Fundamental Forces" in all creation.The fundamental forces (or fundamental interactions) of physics are the ways that individual particles interact with each other. It turns out that for every single interaction that we've observed take place in the universe, they can be broken down to be described by only four (well, generally four - more on that later) types of interactions:
-Gravity
-Electromagnetism
-Weak Interaction (or Weak Nuclear Force)
-Strong Interaction (or Strong Nuclear Force)Gravity
Of these forces, gravity has the furthest reach but it's the weakest in actual magnitude.It is a purely attractive force which reaches through even the "empty" void of space to draw two masses toward each other. It keeps the planets in orbit around the sun and the moon in orbit around the Earth.
Electromagnetism
Electromagnetism is the interaction of particles with an electrical charge. Charged particles at rest interact through electrostatic forces, while in motion they interact through both electrical and magnetic forces.Electromagnetism is perhaps the most obviously prevalent force in our world, as it can affect things at a reasonable distance and with a fair amount of force.
Weak Interaction
The weak interaction is a very powerful force that acts on the scale of the atomic nucleus. It causes phenomena such as beta decay. It has been consolidated with electromagnetism as a single interaction called the "electroweak interaction.Strong Interaction
The strongest of the forces is the aptly-named strong interaction, which is the force that, among other things, keeps nucleons (protons & neutrons) bound together.
Dr. Strange: "Her Father wields one of the foundation forces of CREATION".
Hank: "Where do you think sunlight comes from, eh?. Stellar fusion, children, is born of the interaction between gravity and MAGNETISM"........"if those two elements ever reconcile (good and bad in Magneto) well, there could be no limit to what he might accomplish".
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Originally posted by Tenebrous
Thanos did not mind-rape Galactus. Attempting to mind rape, and actually executing and succeeding are two completely different things.I'm not going to post the scans because they're already here in the thread. Thanos tried to take Galactus off guard proceeded to ensnare him, and tried to successfully mind-rape. Thanos was repelled and moondragon had to cut off the astral projection before Galactus killed Thanos.
If he went up against Onslaught he wouldnt have been able to cut the Psionic link. Onslaught would have dragged Thanos in the Astral Plane like he did with the Phoenix. Since his physical body is in the Astral Plane Thanos would have no where to return to like his encounter with big G.
Originally posted by Lord S
What ifs are not canon...please reference canon sources.
Not Canon but most of Thano's exploits/cosmic beings also isnt canon and does not correspond with the normal Marvel Universe. Many of these exploits are also old....and things have changed.
They’ve discovered that the Silver Surfer is leading Galactus to Earth. Dwayne uses ancient technology to give himself super powers. Galactus arrives to devour Earth, and the X-Men and most of the humans unite to stop him. Dwayne is inspired to use his new powers to mentally unite humans and mutants against Galactus. Their united force kills Galactus, leading Magneto to warn everyone to learn a lesson from the battle.
Originally posted by monaroCountry
Not Canon but most of Thano's exploits/cosmic beings also isnt canon and does not correspond with the normal Marvel Universe. Many of these exploits are also old....and things have changed.
What part of Thanos isn't canon?
They’ve discovered that the Silver Surfer is leading Galactus to Earth. Dwayne uses ancient technology to give himself super powers. Galactus arrives to devour Earth, and the X-Men and most of the humans unite to stop him. Dwayne is inspired to use his new powers to mentally unite humans and mutants against Galactus. Their united force kills Galactus, leading Magneto to warn everyone to learn a lesson from the battle. [/B]
Blah, blah, blah...it's a What IF. Is it so hard for you to understand? It doesn't count.
Originally posted by TenebrousAlso...this whole telephone analogy is flawed. Suppose the goal here is to have Thanos mind-rape Onslaught. For arguments sake lets assume he can, provided it's on the astral plane.
The encounter with Galactus proves that thanos needs assistance to even *get* to the astral plane. That's a serious liability right there...simple but serious.
If you're going to have an insult war with someone over the telephone, which you intend to win and perhaps have the capability to do so, how the fukc are you going to win if you don't even have a phone to use? same thing here. [/B]
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That's not what Lord S is saying. That's not Thanos' goal. It's pretty simple. If Onslaught tries and attack Thanos' mind, and he probably will, he won't take it over like he does others and will get his ass handed to him. Thanos doesn't need to do anything; he's main tactic is to fight Onslaught on the physical plain and blast a hole in Onslaught worse than Hulk, a weak Thor, and the X-Men did.
Originally posted by TenebrousOk maybe you can't read properly, but Galactus stated that Thanos knew too much to continue with life. Don't know where you're getting this 'no information' crap.
Thanos did not mind-rape Galactus. Attempting to mind rape, and actually executing and succeeding are two completely different things.I'm not going to post the scans because they're already here in the thread. Thanos tried to take Galactus off guard proceeded to ensnare him, and tried to successfully mind-rape. Thanos was repelled and moondragon had to cut off the astral projection before Galactus killed Thanos. It's all in the scans. On the immediate page following, Thanos admits he has never before seen someone with the tp skill exhibited by G....you don't say something like that concerning a "victim" of successful mind-rape. Additionally, on the same page it galactus mentions how Thanos gleaned no information. The whole rape was set up so Thanos could attain information, which he failed to do. So he did NOT succeed...he did not mind-rape. He was proceeding to mind-rape, and he started to..but was repelled and ejected from the astral plane with ease.
Also...this whole telephone analogy is flawed. Suppose the goal here is to have Thanos mind-rape Onslaught. For arguments sake lets assume he can, provided it's on the astral plane.
The encounter with Galactus proves that thanos needs assistance to even *get* to the astral plane. That's a serious liability right there...simple but serious.
If you're going to have an insult war with someone over the telephone, which you intend to win and perhaps have the capability to do so, how the fukc are you going to win if you don't even have a phone to use? same thing here.
Aboutah the telephone thing...you're under the assumption that Moondragon is serving as the telephone...I'm saying she's the one making the phone call. Understand?
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Sorry guys, just liking Thanos is not proof.Show me scans of his fight with the maker.
And show me that he is capable of containing a psionic energy being.
And keep in mind there are no other Avengers around for him to throw in and it took all of them and the hulk and the ff to contain him.
This is a no-prep fight so that has to be taken into account too.
It's reasonable to assume that Thanos can contain Onslaught, if Ant man, Captain America and a bunch of other avengers could. Nor is it hard for someone with MATTER MANIPULATION to create lifeless bodies.
Originally posted by monaroCountryAgain, that is from a WHAT IF comic...and those are NOT canon. You'll recall that in the same comic, Wolverine was able to gut the Silver Surfer, so just goes to show how credible it is.
Not Canon but most of Thano's exploits/cosmic beings also isnt canon and does not correspond with the normal Marvel Universe. Many of these exploits are also old....and things have changed.They’ve discovered that the Silver Surfer is leading Galactus to Earth. Dwayne uses ancient technology to give himself super powers. Galactus arrives to devour Earth, and the X-Men and most of the humans unite to stop him. Dwayne is inspired to use his new [b]powers to mentally unite humans and mutants against Galactus. Their united force kills Galactus
, leading Magneto to warn everyone to learn a lesson from the battle. [/B]
Not sure which of Thanos' feats are not canon...maybe you don't understand the meaning of the word 'canon'.
As for your post about Magneto and comparing his powers to the Power Cosmic...dude, spare yourself all the typing...nobody is going to take such drivel seriously. You have no proof whatsoever, aside from your own twisted theory.
But of course you are entitled to your opinion...as retarded as it is.
Originally posted by Lord S
Ok maybe you can't read properly, but Galactus stated that Thanos knew too much to continue with life. Don't know where you're getting this 'no information' crap.Aboutah the telephone thing...you're under the assumption that Moondragon is serving as the telephone...I'm saying she's the one making the phone call. Understand?
Because already in the astral plan before the attack by Thanos, Thanos stated that he knows a great deal of Galactus plans ore has speculation on what they would lead too. Furthermore Galactus says "You sought to seduce and violate me titan" implying that the attack did not succeed at all.
Except Moondragon says "Galactus was ready for US" implying that in some way Thanos was borrowing Moondragons energy in his battle, which also sounds logical considering Thanos had to lower his shields to allow them to bind together, Thanos most likely has a incredible willforce making him a difficult target for Telepaths but as shown in this particular incident he cannot preform telepathic communication without aid.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
If Onslaught tries and attack Thanos' mind, and he probably will, he won't take it over like he does others and will get his ass handed to him.
Please prove that Thanos can withstand a TP attack from a telepath as strong as Onslaught without help.
Thanos doesn't need to do anything; he's main tactic is to fight Onslaught on the physical plain and blast a hole in Onslaught worse than Hulk, a weak Thor, and the X-Men did.