BC/AD or BCE/CE

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Yes, but Jesus as a man, and not as a god.

A man that you are acknowledging as a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. Which would seem to make him much more important that "some guy Christians think was god".

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A man that you are acknowledging as a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. Which would seem to make him much more important that "some guy Christians think was god".

Jesus is a man who was a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. There is no denying that.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus is a man who was a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. There is no denying that.

A lot of people would disagree with that. Let alone having his birth cause the creation of the current era.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
A lot of people would disagree with that. Let alone having his birth cause the creation of the current era.

😆 You are going to deny that last 2000 years of western history? 🙄 People can hate Jesus all they like, but there have only been a handful of people in history that have had as much influence.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😆 You are going to deny that last 2000 years of western history? 🙄 People can hate Jesus all they like, but there have only been a handful of people in history that have had as much influence.

I don't deny it but have you missed all the conversations about how nothing about Christianity is new? ie all the ideas presented by Jesus could be credited to others

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't deny it but have you missed all the conversations about how nothing about Christianity is new? ie all the ideas presented by Jesus could be credited to others

I have not read back in the thread, but I honestly find that to be irrelevant. We should move on from were we are now.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't deny it but have you missed all the conversations about how nothing about Christianity is new? ie all the ideas presented by Jesus could be credited to others

It doesn't need to be new...

Infact, I could become President- reintroduce Nazi policies and take over the world and change the shape of history- the fact Hitler had the ideas before me wouldn't make me any less pivotal in history.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus is a man who was a pivotal turning point in human culture and history. There is no denying that.

While Jesus' legacy definately helped shape the world as it is today, there is no reason to believe a lack of his existance would make that alternate future better (or worse).

Originally posted by Robtard
While Jesus' legacy definately helped shape the world as it is today, there is no reason to believe a lack of his existence would make that alternate future better (or worse).

I don't care about the existence of Jesus. I just don't want to change the calendar more then I have too. Going to BCE/CE is the simplest thing to do.

Originally posted by Robtard
While Jesus' legacy definately helped shape the world as it is today, there is no reason to believe a lack of his existance would make that alternate future better (or worse).

That doesn't really matter though...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Please, guys, he's an angry 16 year old. He will come to terms, given time.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You know, it's very rude to talk for someone and disregard them as well.

He's not wrong though...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
He's not wrong though...

Odd, I often feel the same way when you speak for me XYZ.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You know, it's very rude to talk for someone and disregard them as well.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Odd, I often feel the same way when you speak for me XYZ.

You can tolerate that, right?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oh, is it?

A joke's a joke, but I'm against summarising someone into something they're not and making them an enemy.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes, it is.

A joke's a joke, but I'm against summarising someone into something they're not and making them an enemy.

THAT'S what's a joke! 😂

Hold on, I'll dig up some posts where you called me a bible-thumping fascist.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Yes, it is.

A joke's a joke, but I'm against summarising someone into something they're not and making them an enemy.

Have I made a powerful enemy tonight?

Originally posted by sithsaber408
THAT'S what's a joke! 😂

Hold on, I'll dig up some posts where you called me a bible-thumping fascist.