Give me some time guys...I am on it.
Sorry, it was on Star Wars: The Legacy Revealed, not Empire of Dreams.
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I am downloading it right now off of a torrent site (hehe) and I will transcribe Kevin Smith's bit about Anakin, if I remember correctly it is towards the end.
Originally posted by Blinky
So if Kevin Smith says something like "I think GL did a fuk-tasical job showing the fall of Skywalker, anybody who does not think so is a whinny c*nt", will you nodd your little head? Let's hope not :-/ .
If he says that, I will just have to accept I was wrong. And that the PT is much better than the OT, one of the best movies ever.
I found it. I transcribed it word for word. This is by Kevin Smith in Star Wars: A Legacy Revealed. I recommend to all Star Wars fans and especially Prequel haters. Maybe it will knock some sense into you regarding these movies.
Kevin Smith (quote begins in the video around 54:14 in the copy I have ripped from the History Channel): "Some people are like oh he is too whiny, why would the galaxy's greatest villain be some whiny teenager? That's who the galaxy's greatest villain would be! He would start as a whiny teenager, you would start as an emo kid with some issues."
Originally posted by sweersa
I found it. I transcribed it word for word. This is by Kevin Smith in Star Wars: A Legacy Revealed. I recommend to all Star Wars fans and especially Prequel haters. Maybe it will knock some sense into you regarding these movies.
I doubt it. If all the apologists that run around arguing for the movies can't, some documentary won't probably either. I might watch it though, sounds interesting.
Originally posted by sweersa
Kevin Smith (quote begins in the video around 54:14 in the copy I have ripped from the History Channel): "Some people are like oh he is too whiny, why would the galaxy's greatest villain be some whiny teenager? That's who the galaxy's greatest villain would be! He would start as a whiny teenager, you would start as an emo kid with some issues."
I'm sorry, I like Kevin Smith, but that's neither funny nor a valid argument. That's just saying "You are wrong, because you are wrong".
Originally posted by Bardock42
I doubt it. If all the apologists that run around arguing for the movies can't, some documentary won't probably either. I might watch it though, sounds interesting.I'm sorry, I like Kevin Smith, but that's neither funny nor a valid argument. That's just saying "You are wrong, because you are wrong".
He has a point. Basically all of the people in high places that talk before and after him have similar points, but way more in depth. Which is why I recommend it. The Prequels really do have a lot of story and go way deeper than critics would like to believe.
The Jar Jar sucks! Or too much CGI! mentality just gets in the way.
Originally posted by sweersaYeah, what about the mutliple other critical complaints voiced in this thread?
He has a point. Basically all of the people in high places that talk before and after him have similar points, but way more in depth. Which is why I recommend it. The Prequels really do have a lot of story and go way deeper than critics would like to believe.The Jar Jar sucks! Or too much CGI! mentality just gets in the way.
List of critique so far:
TPM
[list]
[*]Long Pod Racing scene with lots of childish one liners
[*]Jake Lloyd's portrayal of young Anakin
[*]Jar Jar's ridiculousness
[/list]
AOTC
[list]
[*] Portrayal of Boba Fett and horrible dialogue
[*]Late introduction of Count Dooku
[*]No important plot driving the Skywalker story forward
[*]Sifo Dias being mentioned, but not elaborated on
[/list]
ROTS
[list]
[*] Padme dying because of broken heart
[*]Anakin's quick and easy fall to the dark side
[*]"From my point of view the Jedi are evil"
[/list]
PT
[list]
[*]R2's inexplicably vanishing upgrades
[*]Bad dialogue between Padme and Anakin
[*]Qui Gon not being ghost in II and III and just being mentioned
[*]Bad explanation of concepts
[*]Too much plot and scene change in too short of a time
[*]Awkward loce scenes
[*]Anakin whining
[*]Fart joke
[*]Rushed filming
[*]Lack of emotional interest in characters
[*]Bad acting
[*]Focus on CGI over everything else
[/list]
Originally posted by sweersaI don't need you to post rebuttals. I understand you like the PT. I just would ask you to accept that there are multiple reasons not to like them, beyond Jar Jar being irritating.
Not worth my time to post my rebuttals again. Just search back in these forums. I get so sick of defending the PT.I will let time do all of my work.
Originally posted by BlinkyWell, I disagree with some points, others probably disagree with others. It's just the list of arguments brought forth in this thread so far.
Very good compiled list, reminds me of why I don't think much of the PT.
I do agree though that I can't imagine that long of a list in movies I find superb. But maybe.