What did you dislike about the Prequel Trilogy?

Started by vintageSW778 pages

Radar Rider and Queeg have put forward pretty much the same points in their above replies about the PT that i have on here over the years

Heres a controversial view to add to the list of PTs flaws

the Jedi are dull

and as stated elswhere by myself way back
SW isnt really doing it without Vader...and i mean the suited up Vader and not the hooded waterworks version
hes sorely missed from the new Star Wars flicks but obviously that was unavoidable..dur
i know the prequels are his story but the character of suited up Vader for myself IS Star Wars
its a catch 22

Good point.

Originally posted by sweersa
I think if the OT was released today (and ended up similar to the OT we know) it wouldn't have done as well becuase today people have higher expectations for movies. Cinema evolves and changes, it doesn't necessarily make it any better than before, but that is entirely up to your own opinion.

Well, any film made in its time makes an impact because of its time. I doubt the Wizard of Oz would even made the theaters these days as it was made in 1939. Does that change the fact that it's WAAAAYYY better than Return to Oz, even though the effects and puppets in the latter are a lot better? No.
I even doubt Gone with the Wind would work in its form. Or even films like Bullit, the French Connection or even The Godfather. Yet. they are all classics that have stood the test of time and made a serious impact on cinematic consciousness due to memorable lines, performances and/or look.

The OT also made such an impact, maybe the biggest of all, it added lines and characters to the general cinematic experience, it's been quoted countless times, Darth Vader and the Force are part of our daily language almost. That was achieved by the three old films.
The PT was released in a time when everything was possible technology wise. Films like The Matrix and LOTR managed to make an impact on cinema using story and effects (although the Matrix doesn't rank too high to me, very OT star Wars really). Frankly, the PT fails to do that. It seems the only thing people remember is maybe JarJar (and only because of the fuss fans made about him) and a very grumpy Anakin... that's a poor result.

And the reason that is is that the PT was little more than a corny love story with Jar Jar and lightsabers.

Seriously, I was expecting Anakin and padme to start going

"I love you"
"I love you more"
"No, I love you more"

Then ofcourse Jar Jar would ofcourse have to come in and pull something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvwFoOniz-Q&feature=related

Originally posted by sweersa
I think if the OT was released today (and ended up similar to the OT we know) it wouldn't have done as well becuase today people have higher expectations for movies. Cinema evolves and changes, it doesn't necessarily make it any better than before, but that is entirely up to your own opinion.
Higher expectations in looks, lower in writing and acting.

Originally posted by vintageSW77
Radar Rider and Queeg have put forward pretty much the same points in their above replies about the PT that i have on here over the years

Heres a controversial view to add to the list of PTs flaws

the Jedi are dull

and as stated elswhere by myself way back
SW isnt really doing it without Vader...and i mean the suited up Vader and not the hooded waterworks version
hes sorely missed from the new Star Wars flicks but obviously that was unavoidable..dur
i know the prequels are his story but the character of suited up Vader for myself IS Star Wars
its a catch 22

Apologies for the terrible grammar
it borders on Yoda speak

We like it though...

Originally posted by queeq
Good point.

The OT also made such an impact, maybe the biggest of all, it added lines and characters to the general cinematic experience, it's been quoted countless times, Darth Vader and the Force are part of our daily language almost. That was achieved by the three old films.
The PT was released in a time when everything was possible technology wise. Films like The Matrix and LOTR managed to make an impact on cinema using story and effects (although the Matrix doesn't rank too high to me, very OT star Wars really). Frankly, the PT fails to do that. It seems the only thing people remember is maybe JarJar (and only because of the fuss fans made about him) and a very grumpy Anakin... that's a poor result.

Just give the PT time to age like the OT. Already the Prequel section here is way more active that the OT thread, I am not saying that matters but the PT is fresh, it needs time to settle in.

The PT won't age. I doubt it ranks up there with movies like Blade Runner taht got accepted and liked later on. SW is no cult material. If it isn't up there in public awareness now, it never will.

its wai up there. some guy said i looked like darth maul today... i was like wtf? howd you get a gf thats hotter than mine, nerd?

Originally posted by queeq
The PT won't age. I doubt it ranks up there with movies like Blade Runner taht got accepted and liked later on. SW is no cult material. If it isn't up there in public awareness now, it never will.

No one knows what Blade Runner is. But really, give the PT some time, it obviously isn't much of a cult hit given how much money it made and how popular it is. It doesn't need to be a cult hit, it is a franchise and a phenomenon.

I mean just look at all of the sigs and avatars here...loaded with PT stuff. It is happening whether we like it or not.

Just give it some time...and a little patience.

pt sigs and avvy's? where?

Originally posted by sweersa

I mean just look at all of the sigs and avatars here...loaded with PT stuff. It is happening whether we like it or not.

Just give it some time...and a little patience.

thats because long time SW fans have pretty much moved on or given up
the majority of SW fans on forums such as KMC had TPM as their first SW cinematic experiance
hence the avys and sigs

i have a collection of images on youtube and the prequel collections have had far less hits than the OT other than ROTS which has overtook ROTJ and ESB
not by any means conclusive but interesting

actually, my first star wars experience was when my dad bought me "For those who remember.... for those who will never forget... THE ORIGINAL, ONE LAST TIME!" OT box set. i also saw ANH in 1997 in theaters, and that was my first star wars cinematic experience.(the newer release).

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
actually, my first star wars experience was when my dad bought me "For those who remember.... for those who will never forget... THE ORIGINAL, ONE LAST TIME!" OT box set. i also saw ANH in 1997 in theaters, and that was my first star wars cinematic experience.(the newer release).

Same here, my mom taped most of ANH on TV then they bought me the ANH video.

Originally posted by vintageSW77
thats because long time SW fans have pretty much moved on or given up
the majority of SW fans on forums such as KMC had TPM as their first SW cinematic experiance
hence the avys and sigs

i have a collection of images on youtube and the prequel collections have had far less hits than the OT other than ROTS which has overtook ROTJ and ESB
not by any means conclusive but interesting

I actually was into Star Wars before the PT was released...I just barely made it. lol was like 6-7 so I grew up with the OT and the PT. ROTS seems to be the most favored Episode of the OT, which is why it may generate the most hits. Who knows, I personally like ROTS the best next to ANH.

I look at Star Wars as nine er I mean six movies...I love them all and I don't like dogging any of them. All movies have flaws.

True...

And still, I doubt the PT will ever reah the classic status teh OT had. If it does to some extent, it's mainly due to the OT. It's just not very striking compared to what's out there.

Originally posted by queeq
True...

And still, I doubt the PT will ever reah the classic status teh OT had. If it does to some extent, it's mainly due to the OT. It's just not very striking compared to what's out there.

The OT obviously paved the way for the PT. We will just have to wait and see.

Lets come back to this thread 20 years from now.

Originally posted by sweersa
sweers obviously paved the way for sweers' mom. We will just have to wait and see.

translated.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
translated.

Very mature.

Hey everyone, lets pretend we are in 5th grade.

Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
Yoda is about to give me oral sex. Check my signature out
Originally posted by Lord Knightfa11
actually, my first star wars experience was when my dad bought me "For those who remember.... for those who will never forget... THE ORIGINAL, ONE LAST TIME!" OT box set. i also saw ANH in 1997 in theaters, and that was my first star wars cinematic experience.(the newer release).

Same here, but my first SW in theaters was The Phantom Menace.