Originally posted by The PictNo one has defeated him due to speed. Supes usually ends the fights quickly in which he speedblitzes which wont happen here imo.
Where's you're proof he will? Rules dictate he'll be going top speed and if you can't show Rulk countering characters at those speeds then your argument that Rulk wins basically comes down to:
Originally posted by quanchi112
No one has defeated him due to speed. Supes usually ends the fights quickly in which he speedblitzes which wont happen here imo.
Why not? Forget your opinion of whether or not Superman will blitz, he WILL going by the KMC rules. So proof that Rulk can counter-act that.
Originally posted by -K-M-Exactly,who knows. So,how can someone say 100 or 200 hits and we just accept it as fact with nothing to suggest it was more than 15 hits or such? My point is no one should give it a number because we dont know. He is fast enough to tag someone multiple times but thats about it. Thats what we know.
Who knows, but your the one claiming it most definetly not 100 hits.
Originally posted by The PictHiding behind the rules again. I know this is the cbr type of debating. Powerset vs. powerset while we ignore whas in character for Supes. I understand he may speedblitz him but I dont think he has enough strength or power to ko with what Ive seen. Thats my point. I havent seen Supes speedblitz and defeat someone comparable to Rulk. You can keep bringing this up but we just disagree.
Why not? Forget your opinion of whether or not Superman will blitz, he WILL going by the KMC rules. So proof that Rulk can counter-act that.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Exactly,who knows. So,how can someone say 100 or 200 hits and we just accept it as fact with nothing to suggest it was more than 15 hits or such? My point is no one should give it a number because we dont know. He is fast enough to tag someone multiple times but thats about it. Thats what we know.
Except you directly stated it wasn't 100 hits, so how did you come to that conclusion?
He has shown to match Flash pretty close in speed, and we know flash can tag people multiple times in a split second so is it unlogical to assume Superman can as well? No, not at all
Originally posted by -K-M-There was nothing in those scans to believe me it was 100 times. Thats why. Not 100 hits or it even being mentioned,so why would I believe it was 100 times.
Except you directly stated it wasn't 100 hits, so how did you come to that conclusion?He has shown to match Flash pretty close in speed, and we know flash can tag people multiple times in a split second so is it unlogical to assume Superman can as well? No, not at all
Originally posted by quanchi112
Hiding behind the rules again. I know this is the cbr type of debating. Powerset vs. powerset while we ignore whas in character for Supes. I understand he may speedblitz him but I dont think he has enough strength or power to ko with what Ive seen. Thats my point. I havent seen Supes speedblitz and defeat someone comparable to Rulk. You can keep bringing this up but we just disagree.
I'm not hiding behind the rules, I'm pointing them out to you because you like to ignore them. Until you can show Rulk being able to counter Superman's superspeed which he will be using none of your arguments hold any water.
Originally posted by The PictIm not ignoring his superspeed Im saying that he cant defeat Rulk imo by using it. When did I say he cant speedblitz? I could say until you show me anyone on their own koing the Rulk comparable to Superman then your argument doesnt hold any water.
I'm not hiding behind the rules, I'm pointing them out to you because you like to ignore them. Until you can show Rulk being able to counter Superman's superspeed which he will be using none of your arguments hold any water.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Any scans to corroborate this claim?
Explain to me how I an artist is going to show superman hitting someone 100 o 1000 times in a second. All it shows is him superspeed punching and hitting pressure points on ultraman. Common sense should dictate the rest... I guess the writer assumes you will use common sense when reading the comic.
Originally posted by snyper1982They could state it. They dont have to show it. Thats my point. Again we just disagree.
Explain to me how I an artist is going to show superman hitting someone 100 o 1000 times in a second. All it shows is him superspeed punching and hitting pressure points on ultraman. Common sense should dictate the rest... I guess the writer assumes you will use common sense when reading the comic.
Originally posted by snyper1982I disagree because you have no evidence that Supes can knock him out. Supes has lost to plenty of characters who lacked speed. Sorry,even if he uses it he'll get hit eventually in a prolonged fight. Rulk stomps.
No, you don't disagree, you have no evidence suggesting hulk can counter or even see someoneon superman's level in speed. So you throw out the we just disagree card. I love how you debate, no logic and pure bias.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because common sense factors in. You dont even believe it was 100 hits yourself.
Never said that, but you on the other hand simply dismiss it saying it wasn't 100 hits believing it most definetly wasn't...even though your using speculation. Do you seriously not get the hypocrisy of what your saying
Also common sense would dictate that Superman could replicate a similar feat as he can nearly match Flash and Superman has shown to use his vast hand speed in combat multiple times as well.
Originally posted by quanchi112youre using PIS once again
I disagree because you have no evidence that Supes can knock him out. Supes has lost to plenty of characters who lacked speed. Sorry,even if he uses it he'll get hit eventually in a prolonged fight. Rulk stomps.
theres no reason while superman fighting to the best of his ability, like he is here, shouldnt be able to phase through everyone one of red hulks punches and bfr him in one
Originally posted by quanchi112
Because common sense factors in. You dont even believe it was 100 hits yourself.
LOL. Yeah, common sense. A light speeder not being able to throw 100 punches before someone can react. I am glad you said this, because this is a perfect example of someone ignoring common sense.