Originally posted by carver9
I need proof of superman fighting at light speed. Is there any combat speed feats indicating superman abilities of fighting at light speed.
Superman doesn't have to fight at light speed to be thousands of times faster than rulk. There were scans shown of superman blitzing ultraman, who is a speedster himself... Analyze and interperet. The only way superman could blitz another speedster, is if he himself were faster than said speedster. If he is blitzing a speedster like ultraman, then how on earth is rulk ever going to lay a finger on him?
Until someone can show me rulk countering a speedster going all out, I say Superman takes this handily.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Maybe in your mind thats the only way,but not in mine. Really,I disagree with you an dyou have to call me a fanboy. Thats against the rules. He didnt budge when Thor's hammer hit him. He didnt go anywhere near the distance it would take to launch him off of earth. Doomsday Rex is a joke imo. Lobo isnt in Rulk's league at all imo. Not any impressive Doomsday imo.
Yes I know in your mind that isn' the only way. Like I said, according the the OP's thread, rulk never touches superman. It just will not logically happen. In your mind, this is still a scenario fight, for whatever reason you cannot seem to abide by the rules. Also, how is pointing out the fact you are a fanboy break the rules. it isn't an insult. I am a bit of a superman fanboy, there is nothing wrong with that.
It is cool to disagree, but you are disagreeing based on bias, not feats and logic, and therein is where the problem lies. You continually ignore the rules, and post biased claims with nothing backing them up other than your bias. That is also breaking the rules, No claims of bias. If you say rulk can beat superman, you better be able to prove it. So far you haven't even shown a possible way for rulk to hit someone on supermans level of speed, only posted your opinion that you believe he could.
Originally posted by Red Hulk
At the speed of sound... 😂
Really he used a sonic boom in close proximity to screw with the Syndicate since they weren't expecting a sonic attack. As far as the speed blitz is concerned Ultraman has speed on Supes level Rulk does not, Rulk wouldn't even get a shot in if Supes uses his speed.
Originally posted by snyper1982How fast was he going?
I truly hope that was a joke...
Originally posted by AllanklesWas that written down?
Really he used a sonic boom in close proximity to screw with the Syndicate since they weren't expecting a sonic attack. As far as the speed blitz is concerned Ultraman has speed on Supes level Rulk does not, Rulk wouldn't even get a shot in if Supes uses his speed.
And besides, doesn't that mean that he was going the speed of sound?
Why are you trying to make a case? Someone said that Supes blitzed Ultraman therefore making him destroy Rulk, and I said his blitz was at the speed of sound. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you want to read too far into something, then go read poetry; at least then, you won't have to fool anyone but yourself.
Originally posted by Red Hulk
How fast was he going?
It wasn't stated.
Originally posted by Red Hulk
Was that written down?
That he used a sonic boom as his opening salvo.
Originally posted by Red Hulk
And besides, doesn't that mean that he was going the speed of sound?
Not really, since he didn't use a sonic boom afterwards for us to estimate his speed - the sonic boom only happened at the beginning.
As for the fight itself: Ultraman used his super speed and flight to tackle Superman they fought and Superman broke him down, jabbing his pressure points with super speed i.e. he speedblitzed, before ending the fight.
Originally posted by Red Hulk
How fast was he going?Was that written down?
And besides, doesn't that mean that he was going the speed of sound?
Why are you trying to make a case? Someone said that Supes blitzed Ultraman therefore making him destroy Rulk, and I said his blitz was at the speed of sound. Nothing more, nothing less.
If you want to read too far into something, then go read poetry; at least then, you won't have to fool anyone but yourself.
Are you serious? A sonic boom just means he was moving faster than sound. So we know for a fact that he is moving faster than sound, which is faster than rulk unless can move unless someone can prove otherwise.
Ultraman is on superman's level in speed, yet supeman still blitzed him, so rulk isn't even touching him. It should be common knowledge by now that superman is ridiculously faster than rulk. I shouldn't even have to try and back this up... I never said that he would destroy rulk from a blitz, I only meant that superman is so much faster than rulk, he can do whatever he wants to him. That doesn't mean it will KO or kill rulk though, what it does mean, is that rulk isn't touching Superman.
Originally posted by AllanklesSo why should we assume that it was too fast for Rulk, when the only indication of anything basically limited him to above the speed of sound?
It wasn't stated.
There's other feats under his belt to show him being way too fast, but not this one IMO.
Originally posted by AllanklesWhere abouts as I haven't read it in a while?
That he used a sonic boom as his opening salvo.
Originally posted by AllanklesShould he be creating sonic booms the whole battle to show us him traveling at that speed, or something?
Not really, since he didn't use a sonic boom afterwards for us to estimate his speed - the sonic boom only happened at the beginning.As for the fight itself: Ultraman used his super speed and flight to tackle Superman they fought and Superman broke him down, jabbing his pressure points with super speed i.e. he speedblitzed, before ending the fight.
I realize, and I could give a flying ass hole about the fight itself.
Anyway, bed.
Should he be creating sonic booms the whole battle to show us him traveling at that speed, or something?
No during Busieks run on Superman it was stated Superman could supress sonic booms at will. They'll only hapeen when Superman wants them to.
Rulk supporters are underestimating super speed. Thing is even if Superman is even ten times faster than Rulk he'll win.
Multiply my speed by ten and there's no human being on Earth I couldn't beat. Bring Bruce lee back to life I'd still win, thats how deadly super speed is.
Originally posted by -K-M-No. I see your point but there is nothing again to suggest he hit him 100 times. Its ridiculous and we dont even know ho wfast Supes was reacting. It wasnt mentioned as 100 hits and I cant see 100 hits,therefore it isnt 100 hits.
Never said that, but you on the other hand simply dismiss it saying it wasn't 100 hits believing it most definetly wasn't...even though your using speculation. Do you seriously not get the hypocrisy of what your sayingAlso common sense would dictate that Superman could replicate a similar feat as he can nearly match Flash and Superman has shown to use his vast hand speed in combat multiple times as well.
Originally posted by snyper1982How fast is the fasted Superman has ever shown to be reacting during a fight?
Yes I know in your mind that isn' the only way. Like I said, according the the OP's thread, rulk never touches superman. It just will not logically happen. In your mind, this is still a scenario fight, for whatever reason you cannot seem to abide by the rules. Also, how is pointing out the fact you are a fanboy break the rules. it isn't an insult. I am a bit of a superman fanboy, there is nothing wrong with that.It is cool to disagree, but you are disagreeing based on bias, not feats and logic, and therein is where the problem lies. You continually ignore the rules, and post biased claims with nothing backing them up other than your bias. That is also breaking the rules, No claims of bias. If you say rulk can beat superman, you better be able to prove it. So far you haven't even shown a possible way for rulk to hit someone on supermans level of speed, only posted your opinion that you believe he could.
Originally posted by Zack FairWrong. I have never seen Surfer ever beat the shit out of Thor without some kind of powerup before. So,it isnt bias to suggest that Rulk could beat him. You seem to have an axe to grind with Rulk and seem to call bias every time someone says he could win one of these matchups.
How can rulk handle ss?Simple....Bias
Originally posted by quanchi112
How fast is the fasted Superman has ever shown to be reacting during a fight?
Fast enough that he was invisible. Manchester Black - a powerful telepath whose meta human rating rivaled Superman's, didn't even know he'd been lobotomized and his TP disabled. The other elites were asphixiated when Supes used his speed to create a vortex of wind, turning it into a weapon which then formed an oxygen vaccum. The magician (can't remember his name) also got disabled but I can't remember by what means. Essentially, his combat reactions made him virtually invisible.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How fast is the fasted Superman has ever shown to be reacting during a fight?Wrong. I have never seen Surfer ever beat the shit out of Thor without some kind of powerup before. So,it isnt bias to suggest that Rulk could beat him. You seem to have an axe to grind with Rulk and seem to call bias every time someone says he could win one of these matchups.
I don't know, fast enough to dodge a punch from the flash, although i believe that was pre-crisis. He regularly catches bullets on the other side of metropolis after they have already been fired from the gun.
In the sacrifice arc, he was fast enough to take out MM, and break through a GL construct then break a hole in the JL watch tower before flash could stop him. Not to mention blitzing the hell out of WW in the same story arc. She even had green k, and he just smacked her back to earth.
Why does this even matter? Are you seriously trying to suggest that rulk is on supes level in speed? It is common knowledge by now how fast superman is, why do i need to back up claims that are well within his powerset?
Originally posted by AllanklesSo,you dont know. Interesting.
Fast enough that he was invisible. Manchester Black - a powerful telepath whose meta human rating rivaled Superman's, didn't even know he'd been lobotomized and his TP disabled. The other elites were asphixiated when Supes used his speed to create a vortex of wind, turning it into a weapon which then formed an oxygen vaccum. The magician (can't remember his name) also got disabled but I can't remember by what means. Essentially, his combat reactions made him virtually invisible.
Originally posted by snyper1982Im proving a point. You dont know how fast Superman is when he is blitzing. Pretty big point if you ask me. Oh an dby the way all kinds of character catch all kinds of faster ones off guard. That doesnt mean everyone has superspeed. 😬
I don't know, fast enough to dodge a punch from the flash, although i believe that was pre-crisis. He regularly catches bullets on the other side of metropolis after they have already been fired from the gun.In the sacrifice arc, he was fast enough to take out MM, and break through a GL construct then break a hole in the JL watch tower before flash could stop him. Not to mention blitzing the hell out of WW in the same story arc. She even had green k, and he just smacked her back to earth.
Why does this even matter? Are you seriously trying to suggest that rulk is on supes level in speed? It is common knowledge by now how fast superman is, why do i need to back up claims that are well within his powerset?