Errors in Genesis

Probably the most obvious one.

1:1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

We learn three things here.

[list][*]It's the beginning
[*]God created Earth
[*]god created the Heavens[/list]

Genesis 1 then continues the story by explaining what Earth is after it was created; Genesis 1:1 happened first, and then everything after it happened after it, like every other story. Makes sense, right?

Then we go up to genesis 1:6-8

1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
1:7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

God creates Heaven again!

Now how or why does god create Heaven twice? Can anyone explain this?

Maybe Genesis 1:1 is the summary and the stuff afterwords is to be taken as the details.

Seriously, who gives a shit that the Bible suffers from poor editing in this particular part that it warrants an entire thread?

There are probably half a dozen threads already made that this could have gone into.

Its quite obvious the "heaven" as in some holy place in some other dimension or whatever, is meant in a different sense as the heavens which refers to the sky atmosphere and all that.

Maybe the original Hebrew text had different words for the two heavens

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Maybe the original Hebrew text had different words for the two heavens

Most likely, Lord_XYZ just seems to think he is stumbling on all this information that will bring down a religion that has lasted 2000 years...

Originally posted by lord xyz
Probably the most obvious one.

1:1 In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.

We learn three things here.

[list][*]It's the beginning
[*]God created Earth
[*]god created the Heavens[/list]

Genesis 1 then continues the story by explaining what Earth is after it was created; Genesis 1:1 happened first, and then everything after it happened after it, like every other story. Makes sense, right?

Then we go up to genesis 1:6-8

1:6 And God said, [b]Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
1:7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

God creates Heaven again!

Now how or why does god create Heaven twice? Can anyone explain this? [/B]

Genesis 1:1-2 is the basic explanation. God made Heaven and Earth. To begin with all he had was a formless void.

Genesis 1:3-31 details to process of creation, going day by day. Careful notes are included in verses 5, 7, 13, 19, 23 and 31 so that anyone with basic reading comprehension and logical reasoning can understand the way it is written.

Similarly in Genesis 1:26-29 the basic story of Adam's creation is noted but in Genesis 2:7 it is given in slightly more detail.

Again, I stand by my policy that the Bible was not written for idiots.

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Most likely, Lord_XYZ just seems to think he is stumbling on all this information that will bring down a religion that has lasted 2000 years...

Seconded. Even I think it has a little more internal consistency than that.
It is like the time that I convinced myself that I found biblical evidence favoring abortion.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Maybe Genesis 1:1 is the summary and the stuff afterwords is to be taken as the details.

Originally posted by lord xyz
No, because as I said, 1:2 etc continue the story. Also, 1:6 is day two, not the beginning.

Because day one is detailed immediately before day two.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Because day one is detailed immediately before day two.

Incase you didn't know, every line after 1:1 starts with "and".

(1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and the earth (2) was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. (4) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. (5) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. (Day 1 is now over) (6) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. (7) And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. (8) And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

God creates heaven on the first day and the second day.

Originally posted by lord xyz
1: Earth and heavens are created
2: Day 1
3: Day 2, God creates heaven again

Incase you didn't know, every line after 1:1 starts with "and".

(1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, and the earth (2) was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. (4) And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. (5) And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. (Day 1 is now over) (6) And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. (7) And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. (8) And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

God creates heaven on the first day and the second day.

Not by any reading but yours.

Basics: 1:1-2

Details: everything else

How do you get through ordinary books or explanations?

Right.

You know what you've done because you posted it yourself.

Heavens vs Heaven.

Heavens can be the sky, the stars etc

Heaven is the place of salvation

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos

Again, I stand by my policy that the Bible was not written for idiots.

But quite possibly by them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But quite possibly by them.

Not a bad legacy for a bunch of idiots.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not by any reading but yours.

Basics: 1:1-2

Details: everything else

How do you get through ordinary books or explanations?

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Right.

You know what you've done because you posted it yourself.

Heavens vs Heaven.

Heavens can be the sky, the stars etc

Heaven is the place of salvation

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Not a bad legacy for a bunch of idiots.

Very true.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But quite possibly by them.

Not impossible, but they'd still be the most successful idiots in history.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not impossible, but they'd still be the most successful idiots in history.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Then why does Gen 1:3 etc. begin with "and"? Gen 1:2 says darkness was upon the face of the deep, but doesn't mention light, as if 1-2, there's no light, and then 1:3, there's light.

Well, it actually was "the heaven and the earth", but I thought that was a misprint, so I typed "heavens" instead.

you thought it was a misprint...

Anyways, the new International Version should take care of your predicament:

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.