Originally posted by Aster PhoenixAvengers files, which are so top secret and inaccessible that most people don't have access to them for fear of security risks created, is hardly common knowledge. That's like saying that Batman's Batcomputer files which detail weaknesses and methods for killing every JLA member would be common knowledge for Marvel heroes in vs. threads. Or that JLA files, which contain the superheroes' secret identies would be common knowledge. Except that the common knowledge rule ALREADY preempts this and states that Superman's real name is NOT common knowledge.
Yes and he has used the shield enough times and against opponents like Thor who is an Avenger and they tend to keep records of their opponents and their abilities on file.
This is why you fail. Utterly. [/issue]
Originally posted by Ambient
Then this logic should apply to this match as well.. just sayin..
I am not saying he would kill Thanos.
Avengers files, which are so top secret and inaccessible that most people don't have access to them for fear of security risks created, is hardly common knowledge.
Prove this
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
Knowing he can take the JLA and knowing lethal force was needed is not the same thing.And I never said he would kill Thanos.
Look post some evidence from a canon source to support your claims or begone. Doing otherwise only indicates that you're unable to follow the most basic of rules and therefore are not worthy of debating at all. nvr could at the very least SEEM like he knew what he was talking about by misconstruing facts but you seem to be unable to do even that. There's a difference between reaching a legitimate empasse in a debate and refusing to post evidence or accede the point when you're losing. The former garnishes respect from both your peers and your opponent, the latter makes you look like an ass with no real debating skill to speak of.
This argument sure has derailed.Aster phoenix if u wud actually READ Bada's post which it seems u have been desperately clinging to so much,U wud find out that ur said tactic of supes laying into thanos from the start is NOT valid because of the protion in the rules where a character is told to fight "in character". So whether or not thanos forcefields can take supermans initial onslaught is moot BECAUSE, this tactic is NOT viable for superman in the first place.
And ur "point" about thanos forcefields being common knowledge is ludicrous, U wud see this by properly reading the rule. The common knowledge rule has more to it than just frequency of use. Hence the reason for the Clark kent and kryptonite example. What further lays waste to ur argument is that even IF superman has knowledge of thanos fields beforehand ( which he wont), It still is NOT within his personality to go all out from the get go. This is re enforced by the fact that even IF( which he wont) superman has knowledge of Thanos shield, he certainly WONT know its level of toughness which wud make ur tactic of him ramming it at FTL even more invalid.
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I know, believe me, I know.So what your saying is that at full strength and speed he could kill Thanos?
I don't know yet if it's really you Steve or just someone doing a poor impersonation... But if you're the real McCoy then this definitely isn't your best work and if you're an impostor then you need to read more of Steve's old post's. We can pick up just like the old days as soon as you get your technique back up to par but this is just sad now...
Originally posted by ultimatethorI cannot believe anyone would even begin to use some of the debating tactics I am witnessing in this very thread. And a certain poster needs to quit running to the mod to solve eveyr little issue. Its annoying and bothersome to the mod.
This argument sure has derailed.Aster phoenix if u wud actually READ Bada's post which it seems u have been desperately clinging to so much,U wud find out that ur said tactic of supes laying into thanos from the start is NOT valid because of the protion in the rules where a character is told to fight "in character". So whether or not thanos forcefields can take supermans initial onslaught is moot BECAUSE, this tactic is NOT viable for superman in the first place.And ur "point" about thanos forcefields being common knowledge is ludicrous, U wud see this by properly reading the rule. The common knowledge rule has more to it than just frequency of use. Hence the reason for the Clark kent and kryptonite example. What further lays waste to ur argument is that even IF superman has knowledge of thanos fields beforehand ( which he wont), It still is NOT within his personality to go all out from the get go. This is re enforced by the fact that even IF( which he wont) superman has knowledge of Thanos shield, he certainly WONT know its level of toughness which wud make ur tactic of him ramming it at FTL even more invalid.
Originally posted by Aster Phoenix
I am not saying he would kill Thanos.
My post is in referrence to the Insta all out blitz kill you mention right off the bat by Supes, it aint happening even with full knowledge of the forcefield. Its just not in Supes personality to go for the kill at first sight..