Originally posted by vlaaad12345False only thing superman has over Gladitor would be that he is Written well 100 percent of the time meaning he beats Top tier(after all he is Superman)
100 times o snap o wait superman went to a galaxy 2.5million light years away in under a day during infinite crisis,planet destroying?supes holds opening black holes closed with his fists,he pushes planets under a red sun,his heat vision is hotter than a supernova,there is no board myth superman is flatout glads superior in every way.
Speed - Supes has struggled to go light speed few times ( his own word)
Not saying Gladiator is better than Supes but feat wise unless it's Earth 1 Superman Gladitor has done better in terms of speed and power.
Top tier Gl will win for a small majority like Glad Gl are know to Jobs pretty bad
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
How often does a GL defeat a character like Superman? Why is it that I see Gladiator breaking through any containment and choking the life out of... well any GL? Let's remember that Superman always tries his best not to hurt people, whereas Gladiator never holds back.
Did I not just mention major force?
Originally posted by iceman24567Time dilation is the phenomenon whereby an observer finds that another's clock, which is physically identical to their own, is ticking at a slower rate as measured by their own clock. This is often interpreted as time "slowing down" for the other clock, but that is only true in the context of the observer's frame of reference.
That scan proved nothing since he obviously doesn't use that speed in his battle anymore the Hulk even caught him in a physical fight Superman would annihilate him but this is a totally different thread Hal or Kyle can beat Gladz.
TIME ain’t what it used to be.
A hundred years or so ago, we thought that the seconds ticked away predictably. Tick followed tock, followed tick.
And clocks ran…well, like clockwork. Then along came Einstein and everything changed.
His theories of relativity dealt a blow to our naive ideas about time. Hitch a ride on a rocket travelling close to the speed of light, and time slows to a virtual standstill. The same happens if you park near a black hole and feel its awesome gravity. Even worse, space-time becomes so warped inside a black hole that space and time actually switch places.
Now,we see some Glads feats using time dilation to battle earth's heroes. He can battle at superspeed.
Even though he was already battling in the first scans that I provided. 🙂
To be clear, Gladiator wasn't causing time dilation or using it against them there.
There was a "time bubble" in which time was slowed considerably. Reed Richards invented a device that allowed the Earth heroes to remain outside the effect of the time dilation while within the bubble. So they had been on the Shi'ar planet for over two weeks (by their perception) while the Shi'ar planet was moving so slowly that it appeared to be frozen for the entire time the heroes were there.
Gladiator arrived back from a mission and, because he was already flying at hyperspeed and has superhuman perception, he was able to see the Earth heroes as barely perceptible blurs. He then accelerated (even faster than he was flying while traveling back from his mission in another galaxy) to match their rate of movement and interact with them even though he was experiencing time differently than they were.
Effectively, he spent the entire issue at intergalactic-travel level hyperspeed. Which, yes, included a brief fight.
Originally posted by KK the GreatIn your own words what is time dilation?
To be clear, Gladiator wasn't causing time dilation or using it against them there.There was a "time bubble" in which time was slowed considerably. Reed Richards invented a device that allowed the Earth heroes to remain outside the effect of the time dilation while within the bubble. So they had been on the Shi'ar planet for over two weeks (by their perception) while the Shi'ar planet was moving so slowly that it appeared to be frozen for the entire time the heroes were there.
Gladiator arrived back from a mission and, because he was already flying at hyperspeed and has superhuman perception, he was able to see the Earth heroes as barely perceptible blurs. He then accelerated (even faster than he was flying while traveling back from his mission in another galaxy) to match their rate of movement and interact with them even though he was experiencing time differently than they were.
Effectively, he spent the entire issue at intergalactic-travel level hyperspeed. Which, yes, included a brief fight.
Your explanation was alright, but you made it sound like Gladiator "used time dilation" against them. The time dilation in this instance wasn't really an issue of relativistic time dilation in the truest sense. It was a comic book pseudo-science "time bubble" that slowed time throughout a large part of the universe. Time was slowed for Gladiator and the rest of the Shi'ar, but the Earth heroes had devices that made them, for lack of a better word, immune to the time bubble's effects.
So two weeks to Thor, Iron Man, and the FF was an instant to Gladiator. He had to operate at hyperspeed to match them.
Originally posted by KK the Great
Your explanation was alright, but you made it sound like Gladiator "used time dilation" against them. The time dilation in this instance wasn't really an issue of relativistic time dilation in the truest sense. It was a comic book pseudo-science "time bubble" that slowed time throughout a large part of the universe. Time was slowed for Gladiator and the rest of the Shi'ar, but the Earth heroes had devices that made them, for lack of a better word, immune to the time bubble's effects.So two weeks to Thor, Iron Man, and the FF was an instant to Gladiator. He had to operate at hyperspeed to match them.
That's a pretty damn good speed feat for gladiator- hell, that might be one of the best on panel speed feats in marvel, period.
Except that the Gladiator in those scans is a future Gladiator, and not current.
And Superman has faster feats, and stronger ones.
Glads has never tanked two planets colliding. Glads has never moved anything like the wheels of Mageddon. Glads has never just stopped holding back and decimated opponents. Glads cannot punch his way through death. Glads has limits, Superman does not.
Originally posted by kgkg
False only thing superman has over Gladitor would be that he is Written well 100 percent of the time meaning he beats Top tier(after all he is Superman)Speed - Supes has struggled to go light speed few times ( his own word)
Not saying Gladiator is better than Supes but feat wise unless it's Earth 1 Superman Gladitor has done better in terms of speed and power.
Top tier Gl will win for a small majority like Glad Gl are know to Jobs pretty bad
Originally posted by vlaaad12345Gladiator has on-panel nanosecond combat speed. Superman does not. Gladiator is one of the few that can fight at that level of speed. The only kind of speed Superman has ever surpassed Gladiator in, is travelling speed.
He has only struggled in the early early 2000ish area thats the time when he was getting repowered and just started breaking lightspeed again,thesedays he has dozens of ftl feats and several of them are flying to different solar system/galaxies which trump gladiators 100x speed very very easily,superman has alot more strength feats than gladiator and gladiator actually does not have better strength or speed feats and comparing him to earth 1 supes is ludicrous,hal or kyle will take a majority because they get serious it has been shown they can handle a superman level foe(sometimes very very easily).
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Except that the Gladiator in those scans is a future Gladiator, and not current.And Superman has faster feats, and stronger ones.
Glads has never tanked two planets colliding. Glads has never moved anything like the wheels of Mageddon. Glads has never just stopped holding back and decimated opponents. Glads cannot punch his way through death. Glads has limits, Superman does not.
Superman has never pissed himself.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Except that the Gladiator in those scans is a future Gladiator, and not current.And Superman has faster feats, and stronger ones.
Glads has never tanked two planets colliding. Glads has never moved anything like the wheels of Mageddon. Glads has never just stopped holding back and decimated opponents. Glads cannot punch his way through death. Glads has limits, Superman does not.
I agree of course, it just struck me as funny to hear you say that...
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Except that the Gladiator in those scans is a future Gladiator, and not current.
Half of Gladiator's appearances involve time travel. The guy has been around since dinosaurs roamed the Earth. I don't think him being from twenty years in the future is really a cause for discounting an appearance.
And Superman has faster feats, and stronger ones.Glads has never tanked two planets colliding.
No, he's just flat out destroyed one with a few punches.
Glads has never moved anything like the wheels of Mageddon.
What is it with Superman fanboys and citing "the wheels of Mageddon" like anyone should be impressed by it?
Glads has never just stopped holding back and decimated opponents.
"I wonder what his point is," he thought to himself while glancing over scans of Gladiator vs. Vulcan.
Glads cannot punch his way through death.
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Oh.
One of those.