Hal Jordan vs Magneto

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Theses links don't work.

It kind of sucks how Mangetos best feats don't work. I'll try post some more

Try this page
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=417866&pagenumber=2

Magneto is a mutant with the superhuman power of magnetokinesis. Magneto can shape and manipulate magnetic fields that exist naturally or artificially. As the Master of Magnetism, he can lift, move, and alter objects through magnetic force, manipulate the iron-enriched blood-flow to one's brain to induce aneurysms or unconsciousness, control ferrous particles in the atmosphere, alter the Earth's magnetic field which extends into space as the magnetosphere, increase his own strength, erect electro-magnetic force fields with a high degree of impenetrability, and achieve a wide range of other effects. Magneto has even used his magnetic abilities to extract the Adamantium bonded to Wolverine's skeleton, by manipulating it on a molecular level. With the primal force of nature at his command, Magneto has stopped armies, raised islands from ocean floors, moved mountains and threatened to devastate the world with apocalyptic floods and earthquakes. Magneto once blanketed the entire globe with a self-generated electro-magnetic pulse that caused widespread devastation.

Magneto can use his magnetic powers in more than one way simultaneously. He can completely assemble a complicated machine within seconds through his powers. Although Magneto often gestures when using his magnetic powers, he can utilize them fully even when standing totally still merely by concentrating.

The Master of Magnetism Magneto usually protects himself with a personal forcefield that he can quickly expand to protect large areas. His forcefield has withstood the effects of multiple nuclear weapons, volcanic eruption, the depths of space and attacks from multiple Avengers or X-men, as well as Phoenix, Thor, and even Galactus (during the Secret Wars.) By concentrating Magneto can perceive the world around himself solely as patterns of magnetic and electrical energy. He can perceive the natural magnetic auras surrounding living beings, as well.

Although Magneto's primary power is magnetism, he seems to have some ability to project or manipulate any form of energy that is related to the electromagnetic spectrum. He can fire and absorb bolts of electricity and magnetic force, reverse lasers and other forms of radiation or energy, create enough intense heat as infrared radiation to destroy a metal door, and become invisible by deflecting visible light around his body. (He has also dispersed a "flame cage" created by the original Human Torch, but whether he had simply expanded his personal force field or employed something else entirely is unclear.) In both Excalibur (vol. 3) and the possible future of X-Men: The End, Magneto uses his powers to create a traversable wormhole between two points in space.

Magneto is also capable of flight for very long distances and at varying speeds by use of malipulating the electromagnetic particles around him. With his electro-magnetic force field active, he can attain flight in outer-space as well.

A mastermind, Magneto is a genius within various scientific fields. He is an expert on genetic manipulation and engineering, with knowledge far beyond that of contemporary science. His control is so great that he can manipulate the iron in someone's blood, mutate humans in order to give them superhuman powers, causing them to sleep or instill genetic mind-control, create adult clones of human beings, and then manipulate the genetic structures of these clones during their development. He has designed magnetically-powered skycraft and spacecraft, complex robots and computers, and magnetically-powered generators. He has created artificial living beings, space stations, and machines that nullify mutant powers within a radius of several miles.

Magneto is a skilled strategist and hand-to-hand combatant. While he has no true psionic disciplines to speak of, he has been able to successfully fight off telepathic attacks from Professor Xavier, Jean Grey, and Psylocke through sheer force of will.

Originally posted by kakuzu
Technically they would. What makes those versions so different? He doesn't have celestial technology and Magneto isn't limited to any metals even controlling organic metals.

Apocalypse acquired Celestial technology hundreds of years before Magneto was born. The AOA timeline was exactly like the 616 one up until the point where Legion killed Xavier.

Regarding what you posted, those feats aren't impressive in any way. Colossus was like a class 20 at the time, and if he had been as strong as he was now it's still not impressive.

What's keeping Hal from simply recreating the general right next to Mags?

Originally posted by llagrok
Apocalypse acquired Celestial technology hundreds of years before Magneto was born. The AOA timeline was exactly like the 616 one up until the point where Legion killed Xavier.

Regarding what you posted, those feats aren't impressive in any way. Colossus was like a class 20 at the time, and if he had been as strong as he was now it's still not impressive.

What's keeping Hal from simply recreating the general right next to Mags?

Those feats are impressive. They weren't randomly picked. They were real feats.

Colossus like class 20? I need proof. When you say what keeps Hal from making light next to Mangeto what stops Mangeto from creating a wormhole or simply ripping the Ironman out from Hals body? Why only look towards what Hal is doing and not Mangeto. Hal is strong but Mangeto is a pretty smart guy. Although he did loose to doom he had and excuse.

Couldnt Jordan confide mag into a construct so tight to his skin that he could literally not move a muscle, or even just stop the flow of time and run up to mag with a sword construct.

Originally posted by kakuzu
Those feats are impressive. They weren't randomly picked. They were real feats.

Colossus like class 20? I need proof. When you say what keeps Hal from making light next to Mangeto what stops Mangeto from creating a wormhole or simply ripping the Ironman out from Hals body? Why only look towards what Hal is doing and not Mangeto. Hal is strong but Mangeto is a pretty smart guy. Although he did loose to doom he had and excuse.

Creating a wormhole? Maybe the fact that Jordan managed black holes easily when he had just acquired the ring? Ripping iron out of Hal's body won't do him much good when Hal can just devolve his ass. Hal's been dealing with much, much faster characters than Magneto so it's reasonable to assume that Mags won't be catching him off guard.

Originally posted by llagrok
Creating a wormhole? Maybe the fact that Jordan managed black holes easily when he had just acquired the ring? Ripping iron out of Hal's body won't do him much good when Hal can just devolve his ass. Hal's been dealing with much, much faster characters than Magneto so it's reasonable to assume that Mags won't be catching him off guard.

Ripping Iron out from any mortal man will do them damage. The fact he can feel pain just as much as you or I means he won't be able to concentrate on any light constructs. Magneto has had to deal with his son. Mangeto has dodged Cyclops eye blast at point blank. Don't assume he is slow. I really don't see how Hal can do anything once Mangeto puts a shield up. Since Hal controls light which Mangeto can bend this kind of leans towards him.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Couldnt Jordan confide mag into a construct so tight to his skin that he could literally not move a muscle, or even just stop the flow of time and run up to mag with a sword construct.

Yes and Magneto has beens seen doing the same thing. Guess what however? He did this to a group of solders.

Anything with a BRAIN WILL DIE FROM THIS ATTACK

Originally posted by kakuzu
Ripping Iron out from any mortal man will do them damage. The fact he can feel pain just as much as you or I means he won't be able to concentrate on any light constructs. Magneto has had to deal with his son. Mangeto has dodged Cyclops eye blast at point blank. Don't assume he is slow. I really don't see how Hal can do anything once Mangeto puts a shield up. Since Hal controls light which Mangeto can bend this kind of leans towards him.

Now you're just being plain ridiculous. Quicksilver is slow as hell and Magneto has never "dodged" Cyclops' blasts in the sense you mean dodge.

Like I said, what is Magneto going to do if Hal creates a clone of The General? Pain is easy to deal with for a Green Lantern, he has plenty of ways to fix his own body.

Well, if you can't see how Hal can beat Magneto once his shields are up then the problem lies with you. I can see plenty of ways. He can easily absorb it, like Thor did. He can easily devolve Magneto into a little monkey or some other creature. He could turn off Magneto's X-gene, leave him powerless. He could start dropping Jets on his shield, he could simply break it, or he could make a little black hole appear inside.

His constructs aren't just light either, they're pure willpower. Dr.Light has been able to control magical lightning, heat vision and many other things. Magneto does not have light-manipulation on the same level as he does. Do you think the invisible woman can control GL constructs because her powers somewhat involves light?

Originally posted by kakuzu
Ripping Iron out from any mortal man will do them damage. The fact he can feel pain just as much as you or I means he won't be able to concentrate on any light constructs. Magneto has had to deal with his son. Mangeto has dodged Cyclops eye blast at point blank. Don't assume he is slow. I really don't see how Hal can do anything once Mangeto puts a shield up. Since Hal controls light which Mangeto can bend this kind of leans towards him.

Yes and Magneto has beens seen doing the same thing. Guess what however? He did this to a group of solders.

You do understand that Jordan's will power with the ring tips him into peak herald...he could contain H-bombs. Mag is dame near impressive for a meta but he is out of his leauge here, sorry but theres just nothing he can do.

I would think Hal could probably one shot Magneto. 😐

Originally posted by The Great Galen
You do understand that Jordan's will power with the ring tips him into peak herald...he could contain H-bombs. Mag is dame near impressive for a meta but he is out of his leauge here, sorry but theres just nothing he can do.

We have mags at low herald.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
You do understand that Jordan's will power with the ring tips him into peak herald...he could contain H-bombs. Mag is dame near impressive for a meta but he is out of his leauge here, sorry but theres just nothing he can do.

Magneto has been seen playing with Nuke and even shutting them down. One time he had even taken a hit from two at once. The fact Hal is Human an he pretty much would only know Mangeto can manipulate metal doesn't mean he knows the full array of his powers. Would he know what Mangeto can do to his brain? Does he know how he can probe his mind? If he knew this it would be more towards his side but since he doesn't he if left totally open. Since Mangeto is almost always seen with his shield up he doesn't have to worry about this.

Originally posted by llagrok
Now you're just being plain ridiculous. Quicksilver is slow as hell and Magneto has never "dodged" Cyclops' blasts in the sense you mean dodge.

Like I said, what is Magneto going to do if Hal creates a clone of The General? Pain is easy to deal with for a Green Lantern, he has plenty of ways to fix his own body.

Well, if you can't see how Hal can beat Magneto once his shields are up then the problem lies with you. I can see plenty of ways. He can easily absorb it, like Thor did. He can easily devolve Magneto into a little monkey or some other creature. He could turn off Magneto's X-gene, leave him powerless. He could start dropping Jets on his shield, he could simply break it, or he could make a little black hole appear inside.

His constructs aren't just light either, they're pure willpower. Dr.Light has been able to control magical lightning, heat vision and many other things. Magneto does not have light-manipulation on the same level as he does. Do you think the invisible woman can control GL constructs because her powers somewhat involves light?

Stop ****ing playing around.

You need to calm down. This is a simple debate. There is no need for what you did.

You must not know Thor and his hammer if you think his hammer works the same way as a Gl's ring does. For one it can absorb anytype of energy including Mangetos field, to a bombs energy with enough force to destroy a 5th of the marvel Universe. No Gl ring will be doing such a feat.

The way you are planning this battle is that Magneto is going to sit their and let Hal test every single move he has on him and not do a single thing. You even think Hal is a god and Magneto cannot do anything to him which is a lie since Humans are most vulnerable to Mangeto's powers.

If his constructs are just light then why does he need a gl ring? Could he just act like light master the spiderman foe or Dr. Spectrum and make light constructs himself? A Gls will power is what makes them stronger. Its not 100% will power of their would be no need for the ring its self and they could be like Dr.Light.

You don't read Mangeto. I'm sorry I even posted the link to the page where he dodged Cyclops blast at point blank and QuickSilver Grabbed Cyclops. You most not like Mangeto to think everything I post is fake even when You find it on the site, or other members tell you I'm not lying. Also I never said he has light manipulation on the same Level as Dr.Light but he can still constrol light which is visible. Green is pretty visible toe even the color blind.

Originally posted by llagrok
We have mags at low herald.

Id consider him peak meta.

Anything with a BRAIN WILL DIE FROM THIS ATTACK

Originally posted by llagrok
Well, if you can't see how Hal can beat Magneto once his shields are up then the problem lies with you. I can see plenty of ways. He can easily absorb it, like Thor did. He can...

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Show me a scan of a GL easily absorbing electromagnetic energy.

Thank you. This is what I was saying. Gls can produce different radiations like Thors hammer but Absorbs everything from power cosmic blast to Mangetos shield I don't believe that. Also unless he could read minds he won't see that attack coming.

Hal stopped time and can tag Flash and do this http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/89f32ddb.jpg. He once recreated a entire planet with all of its technological glory. He could construct microscopic H-bomb devices by the hundreds and confinde them to pocket constructs a inch above mags skin from head to toe...all at FTL speeds mind you.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hal stopped time and can tag Flash and do this http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/89f32ddb.jpg. He once recreated a entire planet with all of its technological glory. He could construct microscopic H-bomb devices by the hundreds and confinde them to pocket constructs a inch above mags skin from head to toe...all at FTL speeds mind you.

Even after all this how will he avoid a blast comparable to a thermo nuclear blast that he doesn't see coming with enough force to take out and entire city block. Lets say he does see this coming. He makes a shield how ill he stop the fact the blast effects and kills the mind and not the body? He loses its that simply. All of Hals attacks are visible. Half or Magnetos attacks are unknown or unseen. The others are clearly visible.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Hal stopped time and can tag Flash and do this http://img19.photobucket.com/albums/v58/Desaad/Hal%20Jordan/Hal%20Jordan2/89f32ddb.jpg. He once recreated a entire planet with all of its technological glory. He could construct microscopic H-bomb devices by the hundreds and confinde them to pocket constructs a inch above mags skin from head to toe...all at FTL speeds mind you.

Show me a scan of a GL easily absorbing electromagnetic energy.

Originally posted by kakuzu
Even after all this how will he avoid a blast comparable to a thermo nuclear blast that he doesn't see coming with enough force to take out and entire city block. Lets say he does see this coming. He makes a shield how ill he stop the fact the blast effects and kills the mind and not the body? He loses its that simply. All of Hals attacks are visible. Half or Magnetos attacks are unknown or unseen. The others are clearly visible.

Jordan has been shown to match Supes and Flash in speed, from what i understand mag has normal reflex. Jordan and influence any level of energy...mag is screwed.