Sentry vs Silver Surfer in Slugfest

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.Rulk doesnt need the watcher feat. his owning of thor makes me know he woul dalso own Superman without a shadow of a doubt imo.

2.Based on WW Hulk and his feats during that arc.

2. Like what feats specifically make you think he can take Thor with the Odinforce?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. A>B>C logic ftl.

2. Like what feats specifically make you think he can take Thor with the Odinforce?

2.I dont think Thor is anywhere near odin or King Thor level based on what he has accomplished in his series. he is just a top tier imo. WW Hulk will physically maul him imo.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1.I stated my opinion. Deal with it.

2.I dont think Thor is anywhere near odin or King Thor level based on what he has accomplished in his series. he is just a top tier imo. WW Hulk will physically maul him imo.

2. Who did WWH maul that was Thor's level? 🙂

Quasar beat a Watcher too though.

Sentry ftw

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. And your opinion sucks and is illogical. 🙂

2. Who did WWH maul that was Thor's level? 🙂

Oh and i thought that were odinforce thor ...if that were the case that version of thor clearly overated too much. 😄 🙂 🍺

Originally posted by skygunner41
Oh and i thought that were odinforce thor ...if that were the case that version of thor clearly overated too much. 😄 🙂 🍺

Well it's because he beat the Destroyer, but no one knew how powerful the construct was at the time, and he used Ironman as a baseball.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Red beat Thor with the OdinForce and wielded Mjolnir, using lightning, and friggin flew with it. And Worldbreaker Hulk is not King Hulk at standard levels. And Sentry never fought that Hulk.

Korg punched Banner in the face while Banner was relatively calm and knocked him down. That is it.

Yet you haven't really provided any real evidence.

Granted, I am not saying Sufer wins, I really don't care, I am just saying man.

Anyway it seems Red Hulk has magic powers!

Originally posted by Starscream M
Energy blasts are allowed, but matter or energy manipulation is not allowed.

btw, Sentry with a beard does rock. I never cared for the beard on Thor or Aquaman, but on Sentry it definitely works: it negates that yellow-spandex candyass look (sorry, but only Wolverine can get away with yellow spandex, and even he knew better than to wear it in the movies).

In a slugfest Surfer would pwn Sentry. What people keep neglecting to understand is Surfer and Sentry are not alike. Sentry is never and probably won't even be as strong as BRB, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Thor, or Hercules. He is on the earth level basis. He is with Hulk, Namor, Wonder Man. Sentry is weak compared to the others.

Could he beat Surfer in a slugfest? No way. Could he barely win? Hell no. Sentry hurt his fists hitting the likes of Hulk. Hitting a being who is nearly indestructible isn't going any better. To make matters even worse Silver Surfer won't get Tired because I don't believe his body can become tired anymore. Sentry on the other hand is able to get tired after fighting Hulk for just a little bit.

To say Sentry wins is simply overrated him because he can't beat Surfer in anything.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
It won't really matter how much faster the Runner is, because after the Sentry gives him a few heavy bombs to the noggin, it's lights out. Norrins just a super powered wuss, he can't really fight, while Sentry duked it out with a cybernetic organism with computer fast reflexes, and the ability to adapt to almost any given physical threat, and went blow for blow with King Hulk. The Surfer nearly got eaten by Ravenous' mutts, and if not for the power cosmic they would have chewed him up like they were doing to the Gabriel construct.

There sees to be two very important things your forgetting. Three really.

1. Runner is indestructible.

2. Sentry is weak and could never possibly hope to touch Runner if he felt like it. If an enraged Surfer couldn't nobody can

3.Sentry could barely take hits from Hulk. Runner is way more then a threat then Hulk an way more stronger.

Also Sentry can't adapt to any situation. If this was the case he would have pwned Hulk(Which he didn't), He would have lifted that Hell carrier which any REAL marvel power house could have lifted alone.

Surfer.

Originally posted by kakuzu
In a slugfest Surfer would pwn Sentry. What people keep neglecting to understand is Surfer and Sentry are not alike. Sentry is never and probably won't even be as strong as BRB, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Thor, or Hercules. He is on the earth level basis. He is with Hulk, Namor, Wonder Man. Sentry is weak compared to the others.

Could he beat Surfer in a slugfest? No way. Could he barely win? Hell no. Sentry hurt his fists hitting the likes of Hulk. Hitting a being who is nearly indestructible isn't going any better. To make matters even worse Silver Surfer won't get Tired because I don't believe his body can become tired anymore. Sentry on the other hand is able to get tired after fighting Hulk for just a little bit.

To say Sentry wins is simply overrated him because he can't beat Surfer in anything.

Hulk? You have no idea of what you are speaking , King Hulk was stronger, than Beta Ray Bill, Hercules, and Thor by a country mile. Norrin Radd couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag if he didn't have the power cosmic, and even with it he still has no moves.

The Runner is stronger than the Hulk? based on what? he is immortal not invulnerable, or indestructible.

Sentry took hits from the strongest incarnation that there has ever been of the Hulk, and asked for more, and then went to work giving as good as he got.

It's funny becase I've read comics that the Surfer had to come and restrain Terrax, and not once did I ever see him handle him the way Sentry did. I've never seen Surfer stalemate a mega team buster the way that the Sentry stalemated the Collective.

The Sentry would put the Surfer in a headlock and punch his head into his ass cavity if he were in the state of mind that he was in when his wife was killed by Ultron.

Ironman back in the day gave the Surfer a hard time in a less sophisticated suit, yet in his new suit Sentry was beating on him the way a cat beats on a mouse.

Sentry is more than just an earth based hero his physiology make hiim more fit for extraterrestrial tasks than Thor, or Hercules, and I'd put money on Sentry punking the runner as well.

Genis Vell was every bit as powerful or moreso than the Surfer, and he wasn't able to do more than make the Sentry pause for a moment and say that the kid gloves are coming off.

Sentry overloaded the Absorbing Man the Surfer doesn't have that kind power.

As far as speed is concerned the Sentry has duplicated a few of the Surfers speed feats except breaking the time barrier, going to the sun and back in a matter of moments is more impressive than some would believe, and it would make him several times faster than light.

I'd love to see the Surfer beat up Namor, the Avengers, the Inhumans, the Fantastic, and the X-Men at once... the Void was kicking the crap out of all of them, and barely noticed their presence... Sentry beat the Void.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. And your opinion sucks and is illogical. 🙂

2. Who did WWH maul that was Thor's level? 🙂

Good luck getting any sensible answers out of Quan.

Kudos for trying.

CaptainStoic's post made my head hurt.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Hulk? You have no idea of what you are speaking , King Hulk was stronger, than Beta Ray Bill, Hercules, and Thor by a country mile. Norrin Radd couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag if he didn't have the power cosmic, and even with it he still has no moves.

Okay your are obviously some one who loves Hulk way to much. For one if you had read one of Hulks comics this very special one Thor admits he is stronger then Hulk He even said that given enough time Hulk can surpass even me in strength. So what you said there was just plain stupid. Also seeing as how BRB is stronger then Thor that means he is thousands of times stronger then Hulk since you want to make up things on Hulk right? As for Hercules who has pulled Manhattan and the heaviest thing Hulk hauled was a pyramind.... Yeah Hercules is stronger. Why Herc never beats Hulk in a fight is stupid. However he almost killed him once.

[/B][/QUOTE] The Runner is stronger than the Hulk? based on what? he is immortal not invulnerable, or indestructible.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yes the Runner is stronger then Hulk are you okay? You are the only person who I've ever seen to say that. Runner is stronger then Silver Surfer who every one even Hulks writers admit he is stronger. Silver feels bad for Hulk just As Thors does. This was stated by both character and they explained why they always hold back on him.

[/B][/QUOTE] Sentry took hits from the strongest incarnation that there has ever been of the Hulk, and asked for more, and then went to work giving as good as he got.[/B][/QUOTE]

Wrong!! ?Sentry took hits from the second strongest. The strongest was War Hulk who made Juggernaut go all the way to a small crawl and even lifted a Pyramind putting him near or in Supermans class being able to lift millions of tons. That is the strongest. Sentry wasn't asking for more. He was dieing. He even turned back to a human. Did you even read the comic? Sentry even stated he wasn't holding back and lost horrible. Gladiator did more damage then what Sentry did to Hulk with Just his eye beams.

[/B][/QUOTE] It's funny becase I've read comics that the Surfer had to come and restrain Terrax, and not once did I ever see him handle him the way Sentry did. I've never seen Surfer stalemate a mega team buster the way that the Sentry stalemated the Collective.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah your right. Especially since when Surfer fought Terrax I believe he had been powered up right!?!?! When Sentry did it then all he did was brake his little axe. Go back a few years and see what Thanos did to Terrax. He did the same exact move that nobody nows about. Thanos did this while he was sitting down I think. So is Sentry stronger then Thanos now? Is he stronger then Galactus because he never broke the axe to? Oh yeah what about the time Surfer fought galactus, and all those other foes capable of destroying entire galaxaies. Yes you think Sentry is strong because he fought collective which wasn't even shown. It was just Captain America running away really.

[/B][/QUOTE] The Sentry would put the Surfer in a headlock and punch his head into his ass cavity if he were in the state of mind that he was in when his wife was killed by Ultron.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah the Sentry would put Surfer in a head lock and try and choke him when he doesn't breathe. I love the way you think lol. Thats how he is gong to win? Notice how Sentry only did that when his wife had died. He won't just do that again. He will loose to Surfer so fast it isn't even worth reading.

[/B][/QUOTE] Ironman back in the day gave the Surfer a hard time in a less sophisticated suit, yet in his new suit Sentry was beating on him the way a cat beats on a mouse.[/B][/QUOTE]

Notice How Ironmans suit back in the day was kind of amped up. Notice how Sentry did no damage and couldn't do any damage. Notice How Surfer didn't fire a blast capable of destroying a planet while Sentry used his full effort. Why even bring that fight up now when you think about it. You helped me.

[/B][/QUOTE] Sentry is more than just an earth based hero his physiology make hiim more fit for extraterrestrial tasks than Thor, or Hercules, and I'd put money on Sentry punking the runner as well.[/B][/QUOTE]

Yeah your so right. Lets look back at the time Thor pulled the Midgard serpent and the entire planet earth which was trillions of tons. Now lets look at Sentry who could barely stop a hellcarrier which made just over 100 tons. You give me your credit card number since you really want to beat. We can have a Sentry vs Thor whos stronger thread if you want. Trust me you don't want that. Sentry is way weaker then Thor.

[/B][/QUOTE] Genis Vell was every bit as powerful or moreso than the Surfer, and he wasn't able to do more than make the Sentry pause for a moment and say that the kid gloves are coming off.[/B][/QUOTE]

So..... Your point???

[/B][/QUOTE] Sentry overloaded the Absorbing Man the Surfer doesn't have that kind power.[/B][/QUOTE]

The Surfer does have that kind of power. If you actually read and comics with Absorbing man in it you would know he has a limit. He can't absorb even a small portion of and island, the ocean, planet earth. Sentry only had to have just enough to overload him. That again was stupid to bring up. Sentry barely has the power of a dead star yet he brags about 1,000,000. Surfer could have taken him out much easier. Plus that fight was so long. Thor took him out with one move after he annoyed him enough in blood oath.

[/B][/QUOTE] As far as speed is concerned the Sentry has duplicated a few of the Surfers speed feats except breaking the time barrier, going to the sun and back in a matter of moments is more impressive than some would believe, and it would make him several times faster than light.[/B][/QUOTE]

Surfer has flown from one end of the galaxy to another in seconds. That hundreds of times the speed of light. Surfer scanned the entire planet earth for Shanzar in a few seconds. Sentry can barely make it to the sun and back in speed light time. So don't even go there to speed. That is probably the top thing the Surfer is known for.

[/B][/QUOTE] I'd love to see the Surfer beat up Namor, the Avengers, the Inhumans, the Fantastic, and the X-Men at once... the Void was kicking the crap out of all of them, and barely noticed their presence... Sentry beat the Void. [/B][/QUOTE]

Okay you think the Surfer can't take those foes on. Honestly are you a Sentry fanboy? Surfer nearly destroyed the entire planet earth while he was having a nightmare. Sentry barely took on then and had gotten stopped by a girl. Surfer had to get woken up by the earths smartest man. Do the math which is more? Surfer nearly killed earth in his sleep. Sentry was wide awake and got taken out by a girl.

So far all you've done is show me that Sentry is a very weak character. Also you shown me he is so weak that you had to say the void just to make him sound strong. Sentry couldn't even beat the void by himself. He had help from others then Threw him in the sun. Why even bring that up? Surfer would have turned the void into a cupcake.

Can't believe I forgot to mention this. In Thors early years of the Jim it was firmly stated in the little print that he was earths strongest or most powerful hero. Last on it was changed to Thor being the most powerful in the galaxy. Soon that had been changed to Thor being Marvels strongest hero. So to say Sentry is stronger is just what you would like to believe.

Surfer was then counted as Marvels most powerful due to his amazing abilites an how he could pull them off.

Captain Marvel was protector of the universe for some odd reason.

Strange was the soccerr surpeme of the universe as well.

So yeah just let you know Hulk, Sentry are not stronger then BRB. SS, Gladiator,Hercules. and Thor.

Notice how Sentry was earths most powerful people when all I named above where no where near earth. Thats when Marvel started this. However in JIM it was Stated that Thor to be the top. They even had a comic where they answered the fans to see who had been Stronger Thor with no hammer vs Hulk. Thor almost killed him till he stopped to see whether he was okay and Hulk knocked him back. Thor gets up and uses so much force in a punch it destroyed the structure on the molecular level burying Hulk, or so we thought. Hulk ends up running away.

So since Sentry lost to Hulk, Hulk lost to Thor its safe to Say Sentry isn't in the high class yet.

Originally posted by kakuzu

So since Sentry lost to Hulk, Hulk lost to Thor its safe to Say Sentry isn't in the high class yet.

yeah, because the Hulk that Sentry faced was the same Hulk that Thor faced... 🙄

Originally posted by Starscream M
yeah, because the Hulk that Sentry faced was the same Hulk that Thor faced... 🙄

Lol I'm just using the same logic he used. He said Terrax lost to Sentry. Okay Terrax fought Thor when Terrax had been amped up. So he said Sentry must be more powerful.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Hulk? You have no idea of what you are speaking , King Hulk was stronger, than Beta Ray Bill, Hercules, and Thor by a country mile. Norrin Radd couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag if he didn't have the power cosmic, and even with it he still has no moves.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Sentry took hits from the strongest incarnation that there has ever been of the Hulk, and asked for more, and then went to work giving as good as he got.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
It's funny becase I've read comics that the Surfer had to come and restrain Terrax, and not once did I ever see him handle him the way Sentry did.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I've never seen Surfer stalemate a mega team buster the way that the Sentry stalemated the Collective.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
The Sentry would put the Surfer in a headlock and punch his head into his ass cavity if he were in the state of mind that he was in when his wife was killed by Ultron.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Ironman back in the day gave the Surfer a hard time in a less sophisticated suit, yet in his new suit Sentry was beating on him the way a cat beats on a mouse.

Surfer dodges a blast from Ironman, nearly destroys Ironman’s armor with a single blast while holding back, and is unphased by the most powerful punch Tony’s armor can muster…
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Ironman heads for cover…
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Norrin puts Thor down for the count for a blast while Tony sneaks up behind him and drains off some of his Power Cosmic…
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Tony uses the extra power to throw a chunk of the mountain from at Surfer. Surfer emerges unharmed and Ironman manages to pull a double KO by using Surfer’s energies against him…
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How does that equate to Ironman giving Surfer a harder time than he gave Sentry(who he ALSO beat via plot device twist of his armor’s abilities)?

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Genis Vell was every bit as powerful or moreso than the Surfer, and he wasn't able to do more than make the Sentry pause for a moment and say that the kid gloves are coming off.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Sentry overloaded the Absorbing Man the Surfer doesn't have that kind power.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
As far as speed is concerned the Sentry has duplicated a few of the Surfers speed feats except breaking the time barrier, going to the sun and back in a matter of moments is more impressive than some would believe, and it would make him several times faster than light.

Originally posted by CaptainStoic
I'd love to see the Surfer beat up Namor, the Avengers, the Inhumans, the Fantastic, and the X-Men at once... the Void was kicking the crap out of all of them, and barely noticed their presence... Sentry beat the Void.