I disagree.
Qui-Gon was skilled enough to contend well with Darth Maul - who decimated Anoon Bondara - and was certainly one of the better swordsman of his time, even at the age of sixty. He's surprisingly aggressive, too, so I can definitely see him knocking Luke aside like he did to Maul, and then going to assist Obi-Wan. Maybe.
Anakin is hands-down the most dangerous individual here, but he isn't far enough above Kenobi to be guaranteed a win by any means. As the RotS novel reveals, his former Master had him at his mercy at one point, which implies some degree of parity between the two in overall combat effectiveness. The original Skywalker would make short work of Qui-Gon, but provided he's kept busy (he will be) he'll face danger enough at the hands of Obi-Wan.
Overall, I'm definitely leaning towards the Skywalkers, but the other team has a shot.
Originally posted by Faunus
I disagree.Qui-Gon was skilled enough to contend well with Darth Maul - who decimated Anoon Bondara - and was certainly one of the better swordsman of his time, even at the age of sixty. He's surprisingly aggressive, too, so I can definitely see him knocking Luke aside like he did to Maul, and then going to assist Obi-Wan. Maybe.
Anakin is hands-down the most dangerous individual here, but he isn't far enough above Kenobi to be guaranteed a win by any means. As the RotS novel reveals, his former Master had him at his mercy at one point, which implies some degree of parity between the two in overall combat effectiveness. The original Skywalker would make short work of Qui-Gon, but provided he's kept busy (he will be) he'll face danger enough at the hands of Obi-Wan.
Overall, I'm definitely leaning towards the Skywalkers, but the other team has a shot.
You see, I'm of somewhat similar thought. I think they'll all be great battles and very close, but that 8/10 times, the Skywalkers pull it out. I would put ROTJ Luke above Qui-Gon dueling wise, although barely. Likewise for Anakin over Kenobi, especially if it's his much lauded 'in the zone' state.
Well, IIRC, the TPM novel has Maul's victory over Qui-gon as rather onesided on Maul's end, with Maul being described as younger and more powerful.
And Obi-wan's main draw is that he knows Ani inside and out coupled with his incredible Soresu. As Luke certainly isn't a weakling given some of the things he's done by ROTJ, he definitely won't be the weak link..
Also assumedly Obi-wan won't have the 'high ground' advantage here
Originally posted by LightsnakeHe's certainly not Maul's equal, and Luke himself is probably a more forceful combatant. But he can fight smart, and considering Luke's complete lack of true form, he should be able to hold his own well.
Well, IIRC, the TPM novel has Maul's victory over Qui-gon as rather onesided on Maul's end, with Maul being described as younger and more powerful.
And Obi-wan's main draw is that he knows Ani inside and out coupled with his incredible Soresu. As Luke certainly isn't a weakling given some of the things he's done by ROTJ, he definitely won't be the weak link..It's not like Obi-Wan started out with the high ground on Mustafar. He worked for it, he got it, and he won. This arena in particular offers many, many opportunities for strategy, although since this isn't apeshit Darth Vader I don't see Anakin making such a mistake so easily.
Also assumedly Obi-wan won't have the 'high ground' advantage here
Besides, Obi-Wan didn't need the high ground to disarm Anakin and have him at his mercy. That was all skill.
Originally posted by Faunus
He's certainly not Maul's equal, and Luke himself is probably a more forceful combatant. But he can fight smart, and considering Luke's complete lack of true form, he should be able to hold his own well.
It's not like Obi-Wan started out with the high ground on Mustafar. He worked for it, he got it, and he won. This arena in particular offers many, many opportunities for strategy, although since this isn't apeshit Darth Vader I don't see Anakin making such a mistake so easily.
Besides, Obi-Wan didn't need the high ground to disarm Anakin and have him at his mercy. That was all skill.
Originally posted by LightsnakeBefore RotJ? And do they compare to Qui-Gon Jinn or Darth Vader?
Lack of orthodoxy can be occasionally a strength and Luke's got some good experience fighting Dark Jedi...he killed Magistrix Kharys, for one. and fought Celeste Morne
Well, environment played a HUGE part in the prolonged duel, don't forgetYes, but the novel makes it very clear that there's more to it than that.
True, but don't forget Anakin recovered...else Obi-wan would've killed him.Kenobi hesitated. He had both weapons, and then he simply did nothing. Anakin mocked him for his "compassion," and then Force-pushes him back and proceeds to nearly break his arms.
Originally posted by Faunus
Before RotJ? And do they compare to Qui-Gon Jinn or Darth Vader?
And yeah, long before ROTJ.
Yes, but the novel makes it very clear that there's more to it than that.
Kenobi hesitated. He had both weapons, and then he simply did nothing. Anakin mocked him for his "compassion," and then Force-pushes him back and proceeds to nearly break his arms.
team two. No way could Luke hold a candle to Mace Windu, any form. I can't see Luke above many of the upper tier PT duelists. Qui-Gon will make a fool out of Luke, and Obi-Wan will take Anakin after a long duel, Anakin dieing like a moron, in spite of his greater skill. Why? because Anakin would target Kenobi first, because he has an obsession with killing him. I cannot see Qui-Gon losing to Luke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIXcCH3Ypjc
not after that