NJO Luke can manipulate black holes quite easily later on in the NJO series, and use the Force to shield entire planets. He's quite clearly established as someone who -- when the situation demands it -- can manipulate the Force on the planetary level quite easily. The movies on the other hand quite clearly establish these guys as street level combatants, when the best of all of them, Yoda, struggles with relatively basic telekinesis (levitating and moving a medium sized pillar). On account of his Force powers being about a million times greater than that collectively of this entire team, he wins in a curbstomp.
Sidious, who is Yoda's equal, was capable of wielding three automobile-sized objects with apparent ease, lifting them over his head with ONE HAND.
'Street level'? His very presence affected the force in its entirety, strengthening the dark side and weakening the dark side, nigh-destroying the perception of such powerful people like Yoda. By Sithisis, he was able to launch a ritual- granted, a ritual, but that doesn't prevent you from using Bane's ritual as reasonings as to why he's more powerful than DE Sidious- that not only caused massive damage to Coruscan't surface via lightning storms, but also enabled him to cloud the minds and bring out the fears of people as powerful as Yoda. His lightning disintergrated a Sith Wrym with a quick burst, too.
Meanwhile, you have Mace, who was displayed to be capable of high-end TK, such as the manipulation of a rock slide while he was gliding on it, and crushing Grievous, a construct made out of durasteel, the most powerful steel in the mythos.
Anakin may not be much of a force-threat, but he was labelled the 'strongest and fastest Jedi' or his generation, and was able to reduce Dooku- one of the most powerful Jedi in history 'and an even greater Lord of the Sith'- to an utter joke in lightsaber combat.
Together, they're better than him.
I'm going to say LOTF luke can handle these guys. I'm assuming Palps is from ROTS. Its been said that DE sidious can disable force combatants in a moment. in a split second, and then is capable of fighting 2 on 1. (see DE sidious vs. ROTS Mace, Yoda, Anakin, Obi-Wan) I disagree with this, however, if its actually to be believed, we have to assume Luke can do the same thing. Therefore, he kills anakin in a moment with the force, then, instead of using 20 lightsabers at once speed to defeat the other two, he needs use only probalby about 3 lightsabers at once, since they can only block one each.
Originally posted by Faunus
If it's an all-out battle, then Luke takes it. Mace and Anakin can't stand up to his Force-prowess, and by himself Palpatine stands no chance.
Yeah, but just like the DE Sidious thread, you think Luke is going to be able to BFR or kill two of the three combatants before they close the distance and take it to sabers?
I don't know. I mean, Anakin is a beast saberwise, specially if he is in the same state of mind he was against dooku (arguably as good as yoda or sidious, seeing how he owned dooku), and we know his stamina and force reserves makes him and untirable fighting machine, mace fully emerged in the vaadpad can even contend with sidious himself, and sidious is a beast both saber and force wise. The only problem here is luke's force powers, if he uses his power to put aside anakin and/or mace, even if only temporary, he can probably beat sidious. And then he can beat the other 2.
I think this would turn to be a dooku vs obi and anakin, luke would start struggling against the team and then uses the force to separate them. And then he beats them. So, unless he is stupid enough to fight them all with the saber, he will win I think.
Originally posted by Faunus
If it's an all-out battle, then Luke takes it. Mace and Anakin can't stand up to his Force-prowess, and by himself Palpatine stands no chance.
I've thought about that statement and I defer my opinion to Faunus' greater wisdom. In an All Out, Luke should make this look easy.
Luke can start out the match by Force Severing Palpatine, rendering the most formittable opponent on the team useless. Now, he might be able to do something else with the Force before Mace and Anakin are on him in sabers, or he might not. Let's assume the latter.
By NJO Luke is fast enough to look as though he's wielding 20 sabers at once. That's far faster than Mace's 6-9. Plus, as a user of Jar'Kai, he wields two blades, and oh! There's two opponents. Creating some distance by backpeddling or somesuch thing, he should be able to Force Push/Grip Anakin out of the way or cause something to fall upon him, ala Count Dooku in ROTS.
Now, it's 1 v 1 against Mace - and it's a no contest. Mace's Vaapad doesn't help against Luke a whole lot. And if Dooku and Yoda were able to best Mace, so too can Luke.
Now we suppose Anakin recovers by now. Doesn't matter. Even 'In the Zone' Anakin can't compete with Luke's swordsmanship and Force power. He gets torn apart.
Luke then walks over to Palpatine, who is saying something like, "Help me. I'm so weak. I can't hold him any more." Proceeds to smile, and behead the bastard.
The end. If we made this LOTF Luke, or allowed Luke to use his Emerald Lightning, this would be an even worse stomp.