Akatsuki vs Hokage's

the 3th is quite formidable even thou he's old..the only reason oro beat him because oro summon the 1st and 2nd..that's three on one..and all are kages level...in this match...i think the kages takes it...the 1st alone defeted madara and the nine tales long ago..that must mean he is realy powerfull...the 2nd..don't know much about him except that he use water jutsu..i think he can take kisame...and the 3th...if he fight deidara...i'm gonna put my bet on him..the 4th can take on pain..don't know who win thou..and the 5th can take on itachi and i think itachi gonna take this..

When Madara's backstory was introduced it pretty much shoved a cock up the tier levels IMO...

Well the first Hokage did beat Madara whe he was stronger actually so he wud do it again. dont know much about the second aside that he could use water justsu and i think i saw somwhere that he was a taijutsu master. Since he was appointed hokage( that counts for something) I think he cud take kisame. Tsunade is obviously a eak link but i think that the foruth cud take charcters like deidara out fairly quickly which wud even it up a bit. Pain wud be the most dangerous but i think the fourth cud take him. All in all hokages win 6/10 IMO

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
When Madara's backstory was introduced it pretty much shoved a cock up the tier levels IMO...

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Originally posted by ultimatethor
Well the first Hokage did beat Madara whe he was stronger actually so he wud do it again. dont know much about the second aside that he could use water justsu and i think i saw somwhere that he was a taijutsu master. Since he was appointed hokage( that counts for something) I think he cud take kisame. Tsunade is obviously a eak link but i think that the foruth cud take charcters like deidara out fairly quickly which wud even it up a bit. Pain wud be the most dangerous but i think the fourth cud take him. All in all hokages win 6/10 IMO

These are the 2nd Hokage's jutsu's:
Water Release: Water Dragon Blast Technique
Bringer-of-Darkness Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Shock Wave
Sword of the Thunder God

Not with Peins 6 bodies, the 4th needs the 1st to take him down. The 4th also needs the 1st to take Itachi down. Tsunade is probably the weak link, so we would leave Kisame and Deidara for her. Akatsuki might have a better chance at winning than the Hokage's.

Originally posted by Wil7
These are the 2nd Hokage's jutsu's:
Water Release: Water Dragon Blast Technique
Bringer-of-Darkness Technique
Water Release: Water Encampment Wall
Water Release: Water Shock Wave
Sword of the Thunder God

Not with Peins 6 bodies, the 4th needs the 1st to take him down. The 4th also needs the 1st to take Itachi down. Tsunade is probably the weak link, so we would leave Kisame and Deidara for her. Akatsuki might have a better chance at winning than the Hokage's.

That's why the 4th is said to be the greatest ninja ever from Konoha and not Itachi?

Tsunade also isn't going to be surviving any length of time against Kisame and Deidara teamed up against her. There is a reason she's the weak link. Putting her up against Akatsuki's weak link and one of Akatsuki's strongest isn't going to go well.

1st would have his hands full with Madara.
2nd would be the best to fight Kisame since they have the same abilities and none on Hokage's team has a element that beats water.
4th would be the best to fight Pein because of his space/time jutsu. Nobody else could deal with six bodies as well as he could.

That would leave Sarutobi and Tsunade against Deidara and Itachi. Which Tsunade could take Deidara but Sarutobi won't be able to take Itachi. Then Itachi would probably own Tsunade after. Leaving Itachi to help whichever other teammate needs it.

Though I do think Akatsuki has the upper hand. But only because Kage's get two weak links, and Akatsuki gets one.

Well I think Tobi could possibly beat the Yondaime. By Kakashi's words, who was trained by Yondaime and knows his abilities well, Tobi's Space/Time Ninjutsu surprasses the Fourth's.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well I think Tobi could possibly beat the Yondaime. By Kakashi's words, who was trained by Yondaime and knows his abilities well, Tobi's Space/Time Ninjutsu surprasses the Fourth's.

They each have pretty much the same time jutsu's, but if the 1st Hokage can take Tobi, then so can the 4th.

Here in my opinion is how it will go:

1. Tobi vs 1st hokage
2. Kisame vs 2nd hokage
3. Sarutobi vs Itachi
4. Pein vs 4th hokage
5. Tsunade vs Deidara

1st hokage would probably beat Tobi. 2nd Hokage would beat Kisame. Itachi pounds Sarutobi. Pein beats the 4th, but really close. Tsunade doesn't have the right jutsu's to beat Deidara, so Deidara would win, but should be close. Neither the 1st or 2nd hokage can beat Itachi, or Pein, but maybe Deidara. Akatsuki wins.

Wait, didn't the 1st have control over many Biju or some shit?

Did he use them while fighting Madara?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Wait, didn't the 1st have control over many Biju or some shit?

Did he use them while fighting Madara?

I have no idea what you are talking about.

No, I don't think so.

The 1st apparently had control over most of the Biju.

Originally posted by Wil7
Neither the 1st or 2nd hokage can beat Itachi, or Pein, but maybe Deidara.

why the hell can't the 1st take out itachi??he take out madara who has a perfect MS...itachi doesn't even have that...

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Well I think Tobi could possibly beat the Yondaime. By Kakashi's words, who was trained by Yondaime and knows his abilities well, Tobi's Space/Time Ninjutsu surprasses the Fourth's.

Besides Yondaime I think would do better against Pein than any other Hokage.

@Wil7's - The comment about 1st beating Tobi so 4th should. ABC logic works worse in Naruto than anything else. Shodaime has completely different skills than Yondy, and for all we know those skills beat Madara.

switch out any member of akatsuki and put in hidan and it's a shit stomp for them.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
why the hell can't the 1st take out itachi??he take out madara who has a perfect MS...itachi doesn't even have that...

Duh duh duh, his ms is Tobi's so-called "Perfect Ms" was damaged. He can't use ms, or ems. Itachi can still use his ms, and burn the 1st with amaterasu, or cut him apart with susanoo, or flat out just destroy him with ephermal.

Even if you believe it's damaged (which it isn't in the manga, which is the only thing that counts) it would have still been in tact when he fought Shodaime.

Originally posted by Wil7
Duh duh duh, his ms is Tobi's so-called "Perfect Ms" was damaged. He can't use ms, or ems. Itachi can still use his ms, and burn the 1st with amaterasu, or cut him apart with susanoo, or flat out just destroy him with ephermal.

i was talking about their last fight..at that time..madara MS wasn't damage yet..and if i'm not mistaken..at that time..madara has access to a more powerfull jutsu than the normal MS has..

His eyes were damaged during the fight with Hashirama Senju(1st Hokage). Why do you think he is trying to get Sasuke's sharingan? So Tobi's sharingan would be back to full power. He lost his ms and ems before the show even started.

He was at full power during his fight with Shodaime....his fight with Shodaime is what caused him to become weaker. Not that it ever says anything about his sharingan being damaged, and that fight with Shodaime was like a good 70 years before the show's timeline started wasn't it?

Originally posted by Kento
He was at full power during his fight with Shodaime....his fight with Shodaime is what caused him to become weaker. Not that it ever says anything about his sharingan being damaged, and that fight with Shodaime was like a good 70 years before the show's timeline started wasn't it?

You never see Tobi use EMS. You are lieing, or your facts are wrong. If your really telling the truth, prove it. Yeah that fight was 70 years ago. He lost ems and ms during the fight with the 1st hokage.