Originally posted by Wil7You never see the fight between Shodaime and Madara.
You never see Tobi use EMS. You are lieing, or your facts are wrong. If your really telling the truth, prove it. Yeah that fight was 70 years ago. He lost ems and ms during the fight with the 1st hokage.
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.29253/page.10/
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.29253/page.11/
And the first one is Itachi saying Madara's eyes are fine. The second one Itachi says after Madara's defeat from Yondaime he's just a pathetic shell of his former self though.
So there you go proof that Madara is weakened but his EMS is perfectly fine as is it's power.
Originally posted by Kento
You never see the fight between Shodaime and Madara.http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.29253/page.10/
http://www.mangafox.com/page/manga/read/8/naruto/chapter.29253/page.11/
And the first one is Itachi saying Madara's eyes are fine. The second one Itachi says after Madara's defeat from Yondaime he's just a pathetic shell of his former self though.
So there you go proof that Madara is weakened but his EMS is perfectly fine as is it's power.
What it says about Itachi saying Tobi is a pathetic shell of his old self is true. Itachi lied in the other one so people thought he was o.k.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Prove all of these claims please.
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Mangekyo_Sharingan
http://www.leafninja.com/akatsuki.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akatsuki_%28Naruto%29
http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Akatsuki
They all say it, and you still won't believe it?
Originally posted by Wil7Proof? I'll gladly admit your right if you can find just one manga scan of it being said Madara wants Sasuke's eyes or that his EMS is damaged. And I mean a manga scan not wiki or a website.
And the show even states that Tobi wants Sasuke's eyes to get his back to full power. That is enough proof for me.